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I'd rather we shut up shop. Two hammerings back to back could affect morale.

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:13 pm I'd rather we shut up shop. Two hammerings back to back could affect morale.

Noooo. Get one back. That will boost morale

Always gonna struggle to score goals this season.

Don’t really care about going out. Until Plymouth draw the scum away next round.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:17 pm

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:13 pm I'd rather we shut up shop. Two hammerings back to back could affect morale.

Noooo. Get one back. That will boost morale

Naaah well get caught on the counter...I fully expect Argyle to get a third

Sounds worse than the Macclesfield game, at least we had some passages of play in that.

Our shots and shots on target are low according to the Beeb match stats as they were last Saturday, thats a concern to me,

EliotNes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:20 pm Our shots and shots on target are low according to the Beeb match stats as they were last Saturday, thats a concern to me,

That should be a concern for all of us .

One goal in last 6 games

532 has to be dropped

Stamford O wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:24 pm One goal in last 6 games

Why are we creating so little. ?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:26 pm

Stamford O wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:24 pm One goal in last 6 games

Why are we creating so little. ?

We just aren’t creating even a little

No width

Stamford O wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:24 pm One goal in last 6 games

Well that ain’t going to cheer me up is it

Story of O wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:25 pm 532 has to be dropped

Agree. But don’t think it will happen. We are a one trick pony and that trick is pony.

No need to panic yet, but I’m getting a little jittery. Big game Saturday, let’s hope we score and the goals come from forwards.

One shot on target all match, and that was from the spanish omelette.

It just seems that the strikers are getting very little service.

But is it really a surprise, we have full-backs forced into a wing-back position. Only one of the three midfielders is a serious threat offensively, so it seems reasonably easy to set up to contain this.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:29 pm

Story of O wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:25 pm 532 has to be dropped

Agree. But don’t think it will happen. We are a one trick pony and that trick is pony.

No need to panic yet, but I’m getting a little jittery. Big game Saturday, let’s hope we score and the goals come from forwards.

You're not the only one getting jittery. Although Plymouth have a League One quality squad , us creating nothing in front of goal is a worry.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:26 pm

Stamford O wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:24 pm One goal in last 6 games

Why are we creating so little. ?

Huge question. You could talk about the individuals that are missing like Koroma with his ability to produce a piece of magic and open up games just by taking up dangerous positions which made space for others. You could talk about the wise old heads of Jobi or Dayton who maybe weren't orthodox wingers but they helped make us tick in a way Brophy and JMD just can't. The tactical side needs looking at as well. I've not been a fan of our 5-3-2. You either need very eager fullbacks or a ball carrier in midfield to progress play because if you don't you can struggle to move up the pitch. The beauty of the 5-3-2 is that you're outer centrebacks fulfill the fullbacks duties in starting the play so you lose nothing there but you get that extra body in midfield. Our 5-3-2 does none of that. It plays out like a stodgy flat back 5 with the fullbacks doing the same job they were doing before, a midfielder sacrificed for an extra centre back and a very lightweight midfield that receives the ball and has nowhere to go.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:26 pm

Stamford O wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:24 pm One goal in last 6 games

Why are we creating so little. ?

Negative formation produces negative performances. Was fine for the tail end of last season when it was all about protecting what we had and getting over the line but no good now.

Not bothered about this game in the slightest, should've played even more fringe and youth players. Get knocked out the other pointless competition early then focus on league and FA Cup.

Eat the rich - spot on analysis!

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:29 pm

Story of O wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:25 pm 532 has to be dropped

Agree. But don’t think it will happen. We are a one trick pony and that trick is pony.

No need to panic yet, but I’m getting a little jittery. Big game Saturday, let’s hope we score and the goals come from forwards.

I’m with this

Reflecto wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:43 pm Eat the rich - spot on analysis!

Yup. But do we have the players in the squad fit enough to change things round? No effective replacement for Jobi and in Dayton we have to wait weeks just to see if he can perform like before. And where is Turley? Dennis is not fit.

I fear we may stick with 532 because we lack other viable options right now.

We will stick with it at home on Saturday. Personnel may change though.

There ain’t that many changes that can be made.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:01 pm We will stick with it at home on Saturday. Personnel may change though.

I think it's clear we have to try something different . I agree we need more width so Brophy and Dennis to start on the wings .

If things are not changed, even at this early stage, we are going to struggle.

It isnt just the formation. with a back 3( or5), we should be stronger, but we've conceded five in two games ( and it could have been a lot more than five).

the players arent good enough IMO....not all of them, but some of them. A six cylinder car will still go on 4 working cylinders, but it wont go very well....you need all cylinders firing.

We also need a new Head coach IMO........that will definitely come, but who knows when, probably later rather than sooner.

Not sure who's going to sort this either