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Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:44 pm
by Rubex Kube
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:41 pm
Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:37 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:56 pm
They all want the ball to feet. Running in behind isn’t their nature. They either run or Kane has to play like Ronaldo.
Is that why the press failed? Kane isn't Ronaldo, why play like Ronaldo & 7 or 9?
He holds position and drops off when its helps the team move forward.
The press failed because the players didn’t press.
So Ronaldo in an ineffective press would have the same problem?
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:50 pm
by Give it to Jabo
Read somewhere that Southgate is the highest paid international manager.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:28 pm
by Scuba Diver
Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:50 pm
Read somewhere that Southgate is the highest paid international manager.
For years the England managers have always been paid shed-loads. I believe that as far back as Fabio Capello (who couldn't even speak English) , he was being paid £6m a year ( £115k a week)....
I imagine it's to make-up for the ignominy of being the National Punchbag, wherein every journalist, bloke in the street, and simpleton, feels they have a right to put the boot into you- which can even cross over onto a personal level.
Even when you're Top of an international group (as England are now) you're fair game for a lashing.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:45 pm
by Brigs
Another Semi Final, Lots of amateur Alan Sherers think Southgate isn't very good at what he does
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:48 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Yep another semi. At least a semi final in last 3 of 4 major tournaments. You just cannot make a case against his management record.
Unless you’re a moron
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:13 am
by Scuba Diver
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:48 pm
Yep another semi. At least a semi final in last 3 of 4 major tournaments. You just cannot make a case against his management record.
Unless you’re a moron
A smattering of morons on here, and all over social media doing just that.
They come with the inflated sense of entitlement of infants. No doubt they're disappointed today that England have progressed.
Unsurprisingly, they're the same people that like to put the knife into LOFC with their "expert" (lol) opinions - slaughtering signings they've never seen kick a ball for us etc.
Tragic.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:50 am
by Hoover Attack
It was strange to see the total reversal of opinion from the pundits on the bbc yesterday. The performance was a bit better in patches then the previous 2 games, I guess, but the way they were biggIng up the performance and the tactics was just bizarre.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:20 pm
by Give it to Jabo
will he have the cojones to give kane a rest? the team showed real character no little talent either. the penalties were simply phenomenal. phenomenal. Think we will have an easier time against the dutch than we would had against turkey...
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
by PoundhillO
Brigs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:45 pm
Another Semi Final, Lots of amateur Alan Sherers think Southgate isn't very good at what he does
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
by Brigs
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:45 pm
Another Semi Final, Lots of amateur Alan Sherers think Southgate isn't very good at what he does
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:52 pm
by Hedmans Header
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:45 pm
Another Semi Final, Lots of amateur Alan Sherers think Southgate isn't very good at what he does
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Football is part of the entertainment industry
and watching Southgate manage England
is not entertaining at all ..
Plenty of flaws in his management and
style of play he’s trying to install, negative
boring play where we literally scrape over
the line against also runs ..
Wages of £5 million a year gets you this,
Unbelievable to think that ..
1 win in 5 games ( 90 mins) in this tournament
stumble’s you over the line in the weaker
side of the draw ..
Only seen this style of inept management once
before once during the Becchitti era ..
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:58 pm
by Brigs
Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:52 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Football is part of the entertainment industry
and watching Southgate manage England
is not entertaining at all ..
Plenty of flaws in his management and
style of play he’s trying to install, negative
boring play where we literally scrape over
the line against also runs ..
Wages of £5 million a year gets you this,
Unbelievable to think that ..
1 win in 5 games ( 90 mins) in this tournament
stumble’s you over the line in the weaker
side of the draw ..
Only seen this style of inept management once
before once during the Becchitti era ..
France haven't scored a goal from Open play & as the 2nd best team in the world are also in the semi final
Having scored less goals from open play than England.
It's incredibly exciting stuff for England
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:17 pm
by PoundhillO
Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:52 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Football is part of the entertainment industry
and watching Southgate manage England
is not entertaining at all ..
Plenty of flaws in his management and
style of play he’s trying to install, negative
boring play where we literally scrape over
the line against also runs ..
Wages of £5 million a year gets you this,
Unbelievable to think that ..
1 win in 5 games ( 90 mins) in this tournament
stumble’s you over the line in the weaker
side of the draw ..
Only seen this style of inept management once
before once during the Becchitti era ..
Totally agree.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:20 pm
by PoundhillO
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:58 pm
Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:52 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Football is part of the entertainment industry
and watching Southgate manage England
is not entertaining at all ..
Plenty of flaws in his management and
style of play he’s trying to install, negative
boring play where we literally scrape over
the line against also runs ..
Wages of £5 million a year gets you this,
Unbelievable to think that ..
1 win in 5 games ( 90 mins) in this tournament
stumble’s you over the line in the weaker
side of the draw ..
Only seen this style of inept management once
before once during the Becchitti era ..
France haven't scored a goal from Open play & as the 2nd best team in the world are also in the semi final
Having scored less goals from open play than England.
It's incredibly exciting stuff for England
Incredibly exciting stuff from England this must be a wind up or you are excited by boring, negative and unattractive football.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:26 pm
by PoundhillO
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:45 pm
Another Semi Final, Lots of amateur Alan Sherers think Southgate isn't very good at what he does
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Nearly men are not winners and that’s what Southgate is and in my opinion always will be.
England desperately need a Manager that will win Major tournaments and play attacking football that is entertaining.
Nobody wants a loser that plays negative, boring and unattractive football.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:37 pm
by Brigs
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:26 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Nearly men are not winners and that’s what Southgate is and in my opinion always will be.
England desperately need a Manager that will win Major tournaments and play attacking football that is entertaining.
Nobody wants a loser that plays negative, boring and unattractive football.
This thread was created 16 days ago when the haters thought Southgate was taking England out.
Now they are 90 minutes away from another Final. Quite literally never happened before excitement for England & it's people
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:38 pm
by Brigs
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:26 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Nearly men are not winners and that’s what Southgate is and in my opinion always will be.
England desperately need a Manager that will win Major tournaments and play attacking football that is entertaining.
Nobody wants a loser that plays negative, boring and unattractive football.
They aren't nearly men until they are out & at this very moment they are in.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pm
by PoundhillO
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:38 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:26 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Nearly men are not winners and that’s what Southgate is and in my opinion always will be.
England desperately need a Manager that will win Major tournaments and play attacking football that is entertaining.
Nobody wants a loser that plays negative, boring and unattractive football.
They aren't nearly men until they are out & at this very moment they are in.
Southgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:58 pm
by Brigs
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:38 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:26 pm
Nearly men are not winners and that’s what Southgate is and in my opinion always will be.
England desperately need a Manager that will win Major tournaments and play attacking football that is entertaining.
Nobody wants a loser that plays negative, boring and unattractive football.
They aren't nearly men until they are out & at this very moment they are in.
Southgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !
So has
Walter Winterbottom
Joe Mercer
Don Revie
Ron Greenwood
Bobby Robson
Graham Taylor
Terry Venables
Glen Hoddle
Howard Wilkinson
Kevin Keegan
Peter Taylor
Sven Goran Eriksson
Steve McClaren
Fabio Capello
Stuart Pearce
Roy Hodgson
Sam Allardyce.
All Fact
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:06 pm
by PoundhillO
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:58 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:38 pm
They aren't nearly men until they are out & at this very moment they are in.
Southgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !
So has
Walter Winterbottom
Joe Mercer
Don Revie
Ron Greenwood
Bobby Robson
Graham Taylor
Terry Venables
Glen Hoddle
Howard Wilkinson
Kevin Keegan
Peter Taylor
Sven Goran Eriksson
Steve McClaren
Fabio Capello
Stuart Pearce
Roy Hodgson
Sam Allardyce.
All Fact
Doesn’t change the fact that Southgate has been a nearly man since becoming England Manager and in my opinion will always be a nearly man, he is a loser for England in winning Tournaments.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:06 pm
by one o in huntingdon
Doesn't take much to get some people excited.
Can't say i've got above bored rigid as yet.
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:11 pm
by Brigs
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:06 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:58 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pm
Southgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !
So has
Walter Winterbottom
Joe Mercer
Don Revie
Ron Greenwood
Bobby Robson
Graham Taylor
Terry Venables
Glen Hoddle
Howard Wilkinson
Kevin Keegan
Peter Taylor
Sven Goran Eriksson
Steve McClaren
Fabio Capello
Stuart Pearce
Roy Hodgson
Sam Allardyce.
All Fact
Doesn’t change the fact that Southgate has been a nearly man since becoming England Manager and in my opinion will always be a nearly man, he is a loser for England in winning Tournaments.
But your opinion isn't important when it comes to England is it. Its just 1 of 60 million
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:15 pm
by Brigs
one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:06 pm
Doesn't take much to get some people excited.
Can't say i've got above bored rigid as yet.
180 minutes from winning a first tournament in nearly 60 years, pretty exciting stuff when you look at it Historically. I men Germany have won loads of tournaments as have Italy France & Spain.
Not even going to Include Brazil & Argentina
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:17 pm
by Chief crazy horse
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:06 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:58 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pm
Southgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !
So has
Walter Winterbottom
Joe Mercer
Don Revie
Ron Greenwood
Bobby Robson
Graham Taylor
Terry Venables
Glen Hoddle
Howard Wilkinson
Kevin Keegan
Peter Taylor
Sven Goran Eriksson
Steve McClaren
Fabio Capello
Stuart Pearce
Roy Hodgson
Sam Allardyce.
All Fact
Doesn’t change the fact that Southgate has been a nearly man since becoming England Manager and in my opinion will always be a nearly man, he is a loser for England in winning Tournaments.
Might be some truth in that, but we shall see..
Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:22 pm
by Proposition Joe
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:06 pm
Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:58 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pm
Southgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !
So has
Walter Winterbottom
Joe Mercer
Don Revie
Ron Greenwood
Bobby Robson
Graham Taylor
Terry Venables
Glen Hoddle
Howard Wilkinson
Kevin Keegan
Peter Taylor
Sven Goran Eriksson
Steve McClaren
Fabio Capello
Stuart Pearce
Roy Hodgson
Sam Allardyce.
All Fact
Doesn’t change the fact that Southgate has been a nearly man since becoming England Manager and in my opinion will always be a nearly man, he is a loser for England in winning Tournaments.
So the same as every single manager we've ever had apart from Ramsay then?
