Independent Leyton Orient Forum

StillSpike wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:38 pm People who've already committed to Trump will simply believe that it's an a political charade and that'll reinforce their belief that they picked the right guy to adore. Easy to see the thought process, that they couldn't possibly have been taken in by a shyster - that would mean they are pretty gullible - so therefore it must be a fit up. Now, the worse it gets for Trump - the more egregious his crimes and misdemeanours - the more they have to reinforce their belief that it's all a fit up.

Guess the time to finally say "that's it, he's a crook and I was fooled by him" without now having to admit that they really are gullible fools, is long past. Unless they can look themselves in the eye, no one else is going to be able to persuade them and the stronger the evidence is against their man, the harder they'll push back. I'm sure some are leaving his camp - there's a few dissenters in the GOP - but such is the cult of this man that I'd suggest the vast majority of believers still believe - see above for example. No-one in the USA seems to decide between Democrat and Republican, they seem to decide between voting and not-voting and that seems to decide their elections - it remains to be seen whether Republican voters will turn out for him or not, but I think it's way too early to state that they're deserting him in their droves.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:04 am

Brigs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:05 am Why don't you just calm yourself down mate & take your own advice or better still STFU .

Who said I'm not calm? Bit of projection going on there.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:24 pm Who mentioned morals? An overall objection to octogenarians being leaders shouldn't be tuff to understand.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:06 am Defending the indefensible at this point. Even if you don't think he's senile - which appears increasingly debatable - he's eighty-f*cking-two and no sensible democracy should be looking to elect someone that old, and nor should anyone of that age be seeking election. Go and have a rest mate, watch some daytime TV. Same applies to his 79 year old opponent.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:04 am I'm unsure of the rules for changing candidates, but the process would make it unlikely. The rate of Biden's decline is now impossible to ignore, and he has another five months of this. It's painful to watch.