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Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:13 pm**

Great stuff

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:31 pm**

Time to prepare for the tournament. Which means giving Mike Bassett: England Manager another watch.

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:20 pm**

German Guardian journo getting all worked up about the prospect of people enjoying a few weeks supporting their national football teams.

I, for one, will be doing what I have done since 2006: hoping that the German football team – again one of the favourites – lose their opening matches and get kicked out of the tournament as quickly as possible. It might be the only way to limit the ugly party mood.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -the-euros

Posted: **Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:06 pm**

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:06 pm Who is going to win? England

Who is going to fall flat? Southgate

Because England lifting the trophy will still not be good enough for the haters, they will say "he just got lucky to win the Euros, it was the players alone that made it happen"

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2024 5:33 pm**

I find it mildly interesting watching matches and discovering where most of the Premier League players come from. I mean, obviously, if I was that interested, I could find out beforehand, but I'm not really. Who knew Akanji of Man C and Schar of Newcastle were Swiss? Not me obviously. Or that Chelski's La Cucaracha was Spanish (for some reason thought he was Mexican or something) Or that Luca Modric was still playing at the age of 72. Or that Hungary had a big fat bloke who plays centre forward. I'd guessed that Liverpool's Szlozoboszolz was probably Hungarian though.

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:49 pm**

How are you watching?

I cant see much difference in quality between bbc 1 hd and iplayer hdr, not sure what the resolution is there, variable probably but would expect 4k with a decent connection normally, but they may use something less with the number of people streaming. Broadcast definitely ahead by almost a minute.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:57 am**

That was such a Southgate performance, attacking full backs barely getting over the half way line, and wingers that thrive on floating and cutting in forced to hug the line.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 am**

Adz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:57 am That was such a Southgate performance, attacking full backs barely getting over the half way line, and wingers that thrive on floating and cutting in forced to hug the line.

Similar tactics for England to the Euro final against Italy. England go onto cautious and defensive mindset once they scored the early goal. Kane had little impact last night apart from falling over when challenged to gain free kicks.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:08 am**

Gaining free kicks to alleviate pressure and break up play was literally part of his role last night though.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:19 am**

Kane maybe the most misunderstood modern player

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:27 am**

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:08 am Gaining free kicks to alleviate pressure and break up play was literally part of his role last night though.

Big centre half had him in his back pocket all day long.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:27 am**

Kane was good last night. Literally no idea how he pulled down and held onto a couple of those balls.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:36 am**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:13 pm Photographic evidence of Kanes poor attitude but confirming that he too has seen the premonition of the missed penalty.

Going by the way we played last night , that photo is a fact . I thought Serbia was worthy of a draw .

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:17 am**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:27 am
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:08 am Gaining free kicks to alleviate pressure and break up play was literally part of his role last night though.
Big centre half had him in his back pocket all day long.

How odd that he kept fouling him then.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:22 am**

Kane is always a threat. He had lost something of the ability to sprint away from players, though….

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:40 am**

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:17 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:27 am
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:08 am Gaining free kicks to alleviate pressure and break up play was literally part of his role last night though.
Big centre half had him in his back pocket all day long.
How odd that he kept fouling him then.

Kane was diving and throwing himself all over the place.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:47 am**

He goes down when fouled.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:49 am**

Kane barely put a foot wrong yesterday. The phrase “unselfish performance” exists to describe exactly what he did - a disciplined role to help the team to keep its shape.

If anything, his second half performance was less disciplined as he did get pulled deep, but even then, the hold up play - and yes the physical battle - was exactly what was needed. And then he gets one chance and he’s a superb reflex save away from killing the game off.

Oh, and turns up in defence with an important block.

A lot of people will talk about someone being good off the ball without realising what that means in practice

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:56 am**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:40 am
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:17 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:27 am

Big centre half had him in his back pocket all day long.
How odd that he kept fouling him then.
Kane was diving and throwing himself all over the place.

And winning free kicks, retaining possession and breaking the flow of the game in the process. Like what a proper centre forward should be doing.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:57 am**

CEB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:49 am
Oh, and turns up in defence with an important block.

Forgot about that, very important moment - if he'd been a a scotch defender, he'd probably have done a lap of the pitch fist pumping the air in celebration.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:59 am**

For all the Southgate aaaat whinge-mob. Serbia didn’t really pose much threat. A few long range shots but I was impressed with rice and Gheihi in particular who nullified them.

We are usually awful in first game and 3 points means we’ve basically qualified.

Phil Foden can do one though

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:42 am**

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:59 am For all the Southgate aaaat whinge-mob. Serbia didn’t really pose much threat. A few long range shots but I was impressed with rice and Gheihi in particular who nullified them.

We are usually awful in first game and 3 points means we’ve basically qualified.

Phil Foden can do one though

England have only ever won their opening match at a Euros twice: the most recent two, both managed by Southgate.

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:54 am**

OyinbO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:42 am
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:59 am For all the Southgate aaaat whinge-mob. Serbia didn’t really pose much threat. A few long range shots but I was impressed with rice and Gheihi in particular who nullified them.

We are usually awful in first game and 3 points means we’ve basically qualified.

Phil Foden can do one though
England have only ever won their opening match at a Euros twice: the most recent two, both managed by Southgate.

Lost a final, semi final and qtr final, all under Southgate.
The man who said he will protect the youngsters, is that like sticking them on for a penalty shoot out?

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:10 pm**

Foden is turning into John Barnes from 35 years ago.

Played brilliantly for club, but couldn't ever play well for England

Foden turning out the same. Might help if he was played in his best position though

Posted: **Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:12 pm**

He was just as bad playing centrally v Iceland.

Being played in your second favourite position doesn't make you muff up simple 5 yard passes. Something ain't right with him.

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