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Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:43 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
gshaw wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:27 pm
Top of the West. wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:10 pm
Fenners131 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:40 pm

If Orient were to relocate, where exactly would they go?

I ask this for a couple of reasons.

1. Land in and around Leyton will be eye wateringly expensive

2. If Orient were to move out of London (Essex) then they would lose a lot of the recent newcomers


I just don’t see Orient moving ground as a sensible option, regardless of how badly Hearn stitched the club up.
The club have already done a feasibility study with LBWF over the last two years, they both concluded there isn't a suitable site that could house a stadium in the borough So it would come down to buying the stadium I think Matchroom pension fund now only own some of it now with other commercial bits having been sold off.
Which ever way you look at it we would need enormous financial backing probably beyond what Travis and Teague would want to invest.
Interesting, with the restrictions on ground development die to the flats and the cost to get enough of it back to bring some revenue streams in it doesn't seem feasible.

So it's back to selling a Bonne per year to cover the rent costs for the foreseeable future then :?
Teague has already said that's not the case, so that's another thing you are wrong about.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:54 pm
by gshaw
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:43 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:27 pm
Top of the West. wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:10 pm

The club have already done a feasibility study with LBWF over the last two years, they both concluded there isn't a suitable site that could house a stadium in the borough So it would come down to buying the stadium I think Matchroom pension fund now only own some of it now with other commercial bits having been sold off.
Which ever way you look at it we would need enormous financial backing probably beyond what Travis and Teague would want to invest.
Interesting, with the restrictions on ground development die to the flats and the cost to get enough of it back to bring some revenue streams in it doesn't seem feasible.

So it's back to selling a Bonne per year to cover the rent costs for the foreseeable future then :?
Teague has already said that's not the case, so that's another thing you are wrong about.
What's not the case? We're playing rent free now are we?

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:59 pm
by CreamofSumYungGai
The rent cost has been factored into their budgets from day one.

I don’t get why you’re trying to single this item out from all the other costs that contribute to our annual loss?

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:09 pm
by gshaw
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:59 pm The rent cost has been factored into their budgets from day one.

I don’t get why you’re trying to single this item out from all the other costs that contribute to our annual loss?
Because it's the one thing we shouldn't be paying in the first place and discussion is about the future of the ground as per another poster's question above.

Try and dress up the budgets via whatever semantics you like but if we were free of Hearn that's £200k per year that can go into staffing, players, academy etc. Shame it means we'd need to start from scratch again with a ground that'd cost in the millions. Royally shafted by the Hearn family.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:39 am
by Smendrick Feaselberg
gshaw wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:54 pm
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:43 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:27 pm

Interesting, with the restrictions on ground development die to the flats and the cost to get enough of it back to bring some revenue streams in it doesn't seem feasible.

So it's back to selling a Bonne per year to cover the rent costs for the foreseeable future then :?
Teague has already said that's not the case, so that's another thing you are wrong about.
What's not the case? We're playing rent free now are we?
No, you're making stuff up now to support your weak argument. Teague has already said that transfer fees go towards the playing budgets, so selling players does not "cover the rent costs for the foreseeable future"

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:27 am
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:56 pm
What are the club doing for the environment?
You got a thanks from Nigel for this question. And he also answered your tax exile question too.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:36 am
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:17 pm Establish ourselves in the championship, then ground share at the OS.

This has to be their plan.
Hope so. That is s future worth working for

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:08 am
by Long slender neck
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:27 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:56 pm
What are the club doing for the environment?
You got a thanks from Nigel for this question. And he also answered your tax exile question too.
I am shocked, I'll have to bleedin listen to this now.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:59 am
by CreamofSumYungGai
UpminsterO wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:23 am

They get on well with Hearn and I am sure if there was any lease / ownership realignment possible they would at the appropriate time discuss that.
Is that the case? I suspect the discussions over the lease when the East Stand problems arose may have changed that position. Does Bazza still turn up? You would have thought he'd make appearances at the end of last season but if he did, I missed them.

It's a real shame that Nigel wasn't in a position back in 1995 to take over the club.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:52 am
by Long slender neck
:lol:

Seriously, delighted to hear your answers Nigel.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:47 am
by Max B Gold
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:59 am
UpminsterO wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:23 am

They get on well with Hearn and I am sure if there was any lease / ownership realignment possible they would at the appropriate time discuss that.
Is that the case? I suspect the discussions over the lease when the East Stand problems arose may have changed that position. Does Bazza still turn up? You would have thought he'd make appearances at the end of last season but if he did, I missed them.

It's a real shame that Nigel wasn't in a position back in 1995 to take over the club.
Sometimes I wish I had bought it back then as it was only a fiver. I would be minted now.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:02 am
by CreamofSumYungGai
You say that but the ground is still only worth the £6m Barry paid for it.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:09 am
by point nine one eight
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:56 pm Would you turn vegan to save the planet?

What are the club doing for the environment?
1 never in a million years.
2 Don't know, don't care, not interested

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:23 am
by Long slender neck
Questions werent for you.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:54 pm
by Top of the JES
Really good podcast by the Outlook boys.

Re the ground - Travis alluded to looking at buying it back in the long term, he also stated that the new Investor they are bringing on board could easily buy the club outright (former Pepsi man). The good thing for me is that Teague and Travis are realistic about what they can do with the resource they have but it's not just about them pumping in money they both have fantastic contacts which will help going forward.

Orient expect to lose £1million this season but hope to be break even in the next few seasons. In all the time I have supported the O's I don't think I have ever seen such an active commercial department If we could get to league one that would be very realistic.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:59 pm
by Max B Gold
Top of the West. wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:54 pm Really good podcast by the Outlook boys.

Re the ground - Travis alluded to looking at buying it back in the long term, he also stated that the new Investor they are bringing on board could easily buy the club outright (former Pepsi man). The good thing for me is that Teague and Travis are realistic about what they can do with the resource they have but it's not just about them pumping in money they both have fantastic contacts which will help going forward.

Orient expect to lose £1million this season but hope to be break even in the next few seasons. In all the time I have supported the O's I don't think I have ever seen such an active commercial department If we could get to league one that would be very realistic.
Break even, League 1, London based club, mega wealthy Americans you say. Bet the current owner(s) could make a buck or two from a sale at that point in time.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:30 pm
by Top of the JES
Max B Gold wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:59 pm
Top of the West. wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:54 pm Really good podcast by the Outlook boys.

Re the ground - Travis alluded to looking at buying it back in the long term, he also stated that the new Investor they are bringing on board could easily buy the club outright (former Pepsi man). The good thing for me is that Teague and Travis are realistic about what they can do with the resource they have but it's not just about them pumping in money they both have fantastic contacts which will help going forward.

Orient expect to lose £1million this season but hope to be break even in the next few seasons. In all the time I have supported the O's I don't think I have ever seen such an active commercial department If we could get to league one that would be very realistic.
Break even, League 1, London based club, mega wealthy Americans you say. Bet the current owner(s) could make a buck or two from a sale at that point in time.
Doubt it with the money they have put in so far, more so as we don't have many material assets other than the players contracts.

Re: **Questions For Nigel & Dave Travis**

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:52 pm
by Max B Gold
Top of the West. wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:30 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:59 pm
Top of the West. wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:54 pm Really good podcast by the Outlook boys.

Re the ground - Travis alluded to looking at buying it back in the long term, he also stated that the new Investor they are bringing on board could easily buy the club outright (former Pepsi man). The good thing for me is that Teague and Travis are realistic about what they can do with the resource they have but it's not just about them pumping in money they both have fantastic contacts which will help going forward.

Orient expect to lose £1million this season but hope to be break even in the next few seasons. In all the time I have supported the O's I don't think I have ever seen such an active commercial department If we could get to league one that would be very realistic.
Break even, League 1, London based club, mega wealthy Americans you say. Bet the current owner(s) could make a buck or two from a sale at that point in time.
Doubt it with the money they have put in so far, more so as we don't have many material assets other than the players contracts.
Yes but it's the Franchise you pay for.