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Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:41 pm
by Mick McQuaid
That is untrue. Plans were clear as far back as 2017.
https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press ... april-2019
(Edit - I see it was Susan Hall who has accused him of lying, which seems to be based on it not being in the 2021 manifesto that the expansion to all of greater london would go on to include cars. This obviously isn't the same as saying he wouldn't do it.)
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:15 pm
by Chief crazy horse
Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:23 pm
I predict that most Muslims will vote for Hall and Christians will vote for Khan as London is wonderfully diverse and integrated. Most Londoners don’t see colour as it’s a great global city.
......yes, of course this is something that a lot of people can't seem to face.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:59 pm
by Yanzi Gravy
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:31 pm
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:08 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:55 am
If Khan wins, and I think he will, he will change the ULEZ rules within 18 months. At the moment , to be exempt, cars have to be in the Euro 4 or above rating, but he will change this to Euro 5 or even Euro 6.
If he changes it to Euro 5, all cars registered in 2007, 08, 09 &10, will in effect have to be scrapped.
My own car falls into that range. I will have to scrap a really good car, with less than 70,000 miles on the clock, and spend around £4,000 to replace it.........money i dont have
I really am in two minds on who to vote for
Didnt he say this week that the goalposts wont be moved while he is mayor?
Who else are you considering voting for?
I didnt see/hear him say the goalposts wouldnt be moved regarding ULEZ, if he did, thats very welcome, although he lied a few years ago, just after he increased the area for ULEZ to the North & South Circular roads. He was asked if he would increase the area again to cover all of London, and he said he wouldnt, but he lied, so im not sure I trust him now
As for who else i may vote for......I dont know who's standing atm. There may be an independent candidate i like, or one of the smaller parties.
I shall keep you posted
I heard France especially Paris is placing heavy restrictions on vehicular traffic and trying to get everyone on bikes. The thing is if a bike it is worth more that a tenner it gets stolen and a lock of any worth is probably over £100. Any recommendations for a decent lock please?
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:00 pm
by Long slender neck
Looks like Susan Hall wants to scrap free school meals
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslond ... r-BB1lLnNW
Everything she comes out with is just bollocks.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:12 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
A lot like Khan than . I’ve been told at work that if Khan wins the election he will bring in road pricing at £2 per mile and it won’t matter what vehicle you’re driving. Apparently it’s all over social media. Like I said, it’s what I was told so don’t go shooting the messenger.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:20 pm
by Long slender neck
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:12 pm
A lot like Khan than . I’ve been told at work that if Khan wins the election he will bring in road pricing at £2 per mile and it won’t matter what vehicle you’re driving. Apparently it’s all over social media. Like I said, it’s what I was told so don’t go shooting the messenger.
Thats a load of rubbish though isnt it? Khan has said it wont happen.
How would that even work technologically?
Anything 'all over social media' is an immediate red flag!
Its a conspiracy theory, just like '15 minute neighbourhoods' and Susan Hall couldnt stop repeating the phrase 'pay per mile' in that debate even when she was told its rubbish.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:24 pm
by gshaw
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:20 pm
Thats a load of rubbish though isnt it? Khan has said it wont happen.
He lies. Previously said ULEZ expansion wouldn't happen and here we are
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:20 pm
How would that even work technologically?
Anything 'all over social media' is an immediate red flag!
Have you noticed they're putting ULEZ cameras up in cul de sacs and suchlike? Basically trying to map every part of London so you'd be time and distance measured along any journey.
It's in the TfL planning strategy document and I think there are tender documents as well for "Project Detroit" which is being actively worked on at present. When questioned about it Khan refuses to answer.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:28 pm
by Long slender neck
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:30 pm
by Long slender neck
gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:24 pm
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:20 pm
Thats a load of rubbish though isnt it? Khan has said it wont happen.
He lies. Previously said ULEZ expansion wouldn't happen and here we are
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:20 pm
How would that even work technologically?
Anything 'all over social media' is an immediate red flag!
Have you noticed they're putting ULEZ cameras up in cul de sacs and suchlike? Basically trying to map every part of London so you'd be time and distance measured along any journey.
It's in the TfL planning strategy document and I think there are tender documents as well for "Project Detroit" which is being actively worked on at present. When questioned about it Khan refuses to answer.
No I havent seen ulez cameras in cul de sacs. I've seen some cameras go up around schools.
Detroit is explained in my above link. Its just an IT system to replace existing and hardly Skynet.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:59 pm
by OyinbO
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:12 pm
Apparently it’s all over social media.
Good enough for me!
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:06 pm
by BIGRON
Khan is 1/50 with the bookies
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:38 pm
by Long slender neck
Why the sad face Ron?
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:01 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:59 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:12 pm
Apparently it’s all over social media.
Good enough for me!
Like I said , I'm just the messenger .
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:30 am
by ChorizO
Is quite astonishing that she has got this far unless she is designated as the absolute fall guy.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:30 am
by ChorizO
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:06 pm
Khan is 1/50 with the bookies
And your problem is … ?
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:00 am
by RedDwarf 1881
ChorizO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:30 am
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:06 pm
Khan is 1/50 with the bookies
And your problem is … ?
Khan has been a crap mayor. The thought of another four years of that arrogant plonker is depressing .
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:23 am
by Proposition Joe
ChorizO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:30 am
Is quite astonishing that she has got this far unless she is designated as the absolute fall guy.
They're not actually bothered about winning.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:32 am
by Long slender neck
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:00 am
ChorizO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:30 am
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:06 pm
Khan is 1/50 with the bookies
And your problem is … ?
Khan has been a crap mayor. The thought of another four years of that arrogant plonker is depressing .
How has he?
I'll bear in mind your political views- Trump, Russia and Brexit supporter?
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:39 am
by Proposition Joe
Quite. I'm not particularly a Khan fan but the accusations of "arrogance" mainly seem to equate to "he's implemented a policy/policies I don't like". Interested to see if anyone can actually come up with an example of how he's acted arrogantly.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:48 am
by BiggsyMalone
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:00 am
ChorizO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:30 am
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:06 pm
Khan is 1/50 with the bookies
And your problem is … ?
Khan has been a crap mayor. The thought of another four years of that arrogant plonker is depressing .
How has he been crap?
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:49 am
by CEB
“What I don’t like about Khan is his arrogance. I long for the days when the holder of that office was unencumbered by such character flaws, such as when Boris Johnson was Mayor”
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:51 am
by BiggsyMalone
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:39 am
Quite. I'm not particularly a Khan fan but the accusations of "arrogance" mainly seem to equate to "he's implemented a policy/policies I don't like". Interested to see if anyone can actually come up with an example of how he's acted arrogantly.
They won’t. The stuff they don’t like is a direct result of the government. Theresa May scrapped the TfL grant, meaning other revenue streams were necessary. The recent post-covid funding deals were only given on the basis of him going back on promises.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:55 am
by Proposition Joe
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:51 am
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:39 am
Quite. I'm not particularly a Khan fan but the accusations of "arrogance" mainly seem to equate to "he's implemented a policy/policies I don't like". Interested to see if anyone can actually come up with an example of how he's acted arrogantly.
They won’t. The stuff they don’t like is a direct result of the government. Theresa May scrapped the TfL grant, meaning other revenue streams were necessary. The recent post-covid funding deals were only given on the basis of him going back on promises.
Obviously not all, but would guess that rather a lot of things people don't like about Labour councils or mayors actually stem from prior policies and decisions made by the Tory government.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:05 am
by Dunners
I can only guess that the Tories are deploying Susan Hall as a means to gauge voter reaction to some of her comments in non-London regions around the rest of the country. Possibly as a way of formulating their General Election strategy and campaign.
Re: London Mayor Election
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:33 am
by Long slender neck
I expect they're following their uxbridge anti ulez strategy. Outer borough voters will go for it.
......yes, of course this is something that a lot of people can't seem to face.