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Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:06 pm
by Petrov788
Racists will vote for them in their droves. Even if all of their candidates aren't racist. And let's face it, at least some of them are.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:08 pm
by Max B Gold
Petrov788 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:06 pm
Racists will vote for them in their droves. Even if all of their candidates aren't racist. And let's face it, at least some of them are.
They all are, without exception. The clue is in their racist policies.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:09 pm
by faldO
Far right Reform MP Lee Anderson asks question about institutional racism in the Dorset & Wiltshire Fire and Rescue Authority. What a far right racist he is.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:29 pm
by Real Al
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:31 pm
Admin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:16 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:05 pm
They appeal to a load of old racists
As do both Labour & Conservative. Power doesn't arrive unless you get old racists to vote for you.
Be good when they're all dead.
Not sure that works. New racists appear as people get older. Used to be egged on my the Daily Fail and their "Everything is terrible" narrative. Now it's social media
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:31 pm
by Proposition Joe
faldO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:09 pm
Far right Reform MP Lee Anderson asks question about institutional racism in the Dorset & Wiltshire Fire and Rescue Authority. What a far right racist he is.
You think a clip of a man making a performative effort to deny racism proves that he's not a racist? Interesting.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:37 pm
by Max B Gold
Real Al wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:29 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:31 pm
Admin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:16 pm
As do both Labour & Conservative. Power doesn't arrive unless you get old racists to vote for you.
Be good when they're all dead.
Not sure that works. New racists appear as people get older. Used to be egged on my the Daily Fail and their "Everything is terrible" narrative. Now it's social media
I'm not fully on board with your theory that people get more racist as they get older. Maybe they were always racist but restrained in their younger days because of the societal impact on their employment etc.
I'm also concerned that we appear to have a society with a process in place, via media etc, to make a plentiful supply of new racists.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:45 pm
by Beradogs
I’m voting for them.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:01 pm
by Max B Gold
Beradogs wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:45 pm
I’m voting for them.
Yawn
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:15 pm
by faldO
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:31 pm
You think a clip of a man making a performative effort to deny racism proves that he's not a racist? Interesting.
You think asking the Chair of the Dorset & Wiltshire Fire and Rescue Authority to name one, just one, example of "white advantage" in her organisation and failing to come up with one (having agreed with a report that says her force is institutionally racist) is a performative action by Anderson to deny his far right racism? Interesting.
He was offering her the opportunity to highlight the institutional racism in her force and she failed miserably. Anyway, she's going to get back to him after she's actually read the report she agrees with, so all will be cleared up soon.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:42 pm
by Max B Gold
Looks like Lee is with more like minded people these days. I suspect they agree too with Lee that London has been captured by Islamists
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:43 pm
by Proposition Joe
faldO seems to be conflating two different things but I'm going to be generous and assume that both he and Lee Anderson very much know that.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:59 pm
by Max B Gold
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:43 pm
faldO seems to be conflating two different things but I'm going to be generous and assume that both he and Lee Anderson very much know that.
It's part of the propaganda shtick to try and appear moderate and reasonable but behind the scenes in private they talk like the fascists they are.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:40 pm
by faldO
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:37 pm
by Max B Gold
There's an awful lot of fascists to not like. Isn't Nigel Farage ex National Front?
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:15 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
No
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:04 pm
by Proposition Joe
faldO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:40 pm
Ah, the memes are coming out. Best way to know I've won, cheers.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:52 pm
by Hoover Attack
faldO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:09 pm
Far right Reform MP Lee Anderson asks question about institutional racism in the Dorset & Wiltshire Fire and Rescue Authority. What a far right racist he is.
You get he’s trying to deny the institutional racism, right?
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:10 pm
by faldO
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:52 pm
You get he’s trying to deny the institutional racism, right?
It's the Firewoman who denied it...it's literally what she said.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:12 pm
by faldO
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:04 pm
Ah, the memes are coming out. Best way to know I've won, cheers.
You've "won"?
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:25 pm
by Proposition Joe
Yes. You have admitted you're being silly as you have nothing left to say apart from post silly, meaningless pictures. I thank you for your honesty.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:02 pm
by faldO
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:25 pm
Yes. You have admitted you're being silly as you have nothing left to say apart from post silly, meaningless pictures. I thank you for your honesty.
Fair enough...if it's that important to you and makes you happy...
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:20 pm
by Max B Gold
Not another one!!
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:52 pm
by Hoover Attack
faldO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:10 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:52 pm
You get he’s trying to deny the institutional racism, right?
It's the Firewoman who denied it...it's literally what she said.
No it’s not. She has apparently agreed with the findings of the report and that institutional racism exists.
He asked her what advantage a white person has in the brigade. Her stumbled response was that she hoped none.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:54 pm
by Hoover Attack
But regardless, what has this got to do with how racist - or not - Lee Anderson is? I don’t get it.
Re: How far to the right (not far-right) are Reform?
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:11 am
by Dunners
Just four points between the Tories and Reform UK in this latest poll. I very much doubt that people would vote this way at an actual GE, but I don't think I can recall even UKIP getting this close.