Independent Leyton Orient Forum

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:29 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:53 pm The current clampdown by the FA is as a result of increasing bad behaviour creeping into the game. They are trying to stop this creep and this season have been applying the rules more rigorously. Many types of behaviour like surrounding referees and technical area offences have declined already. Dissent cautions have increased as part of this clampdown but the FA expect this to decline one player/coach behaviour improves.

We have seen a marked increase in time added on for time-wasting and all this surrounding the referee and kicking the ball away at free kicks is disappearing.

Wellens offences are covered by the Laws, law 12, and he is clearly in breach of them. He knows it too and is not contesting the latest one because now he knows the rules he realises he was wrong. No matter how he chooses to describe it.

Thinking the rules are crap is fine, but they are the rules and need to be adhered to. No referees = no football. Think about it!

All of the above stuff they're clamping down on... who bloody cares apart from the suits?

Technical area... who cares, it's great to see managers running up the line with passion

Dissent... get the decisions right then, we're seeing basic errors increasing like not giving fouls on a keeper clearing a ball, and these referees want respect?

What we have is too much meddling in the rougher edges of the game by those who have never played it. Fans don't want the sport sanitised, neither do players, managers or pundits.

In short, reverse all the recent changes, get back to simple definitions of basics like handball, added time and keep it consistent. The rest would follow but this authoritarian, punitive method is just driving an increasing wedge between those "running" the game and those watching and playing it.

As Richie says in his interview, they drain him and I get the same feeling every time VA-farce crops up in MOTD and the same watching inept officials at our level.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:35 pm Given a £2400 fine but no touchline ban or other sporting sanction, good but expensive news for RW.

I think they accepted his version of events,

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:35 pm Given a £2400 fine but no touchline ban or other sporting sanction, good but expensive news for RW.

I think they accepted his version of events,

Story of O wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:09 pm Then why fine him?

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:07 pm Richie wins this round, a token fine is basically admitting he's not really done anything wrong but the FA can't lose face in letting him off the hook completely

The Reverend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:54 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:07 pm Richie wins this round, a token fine is basically admitting he's not really done anything wrong but the FA can't lose face in letting him off the hook completely

£2400 is an expensive token!

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:52 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:29 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:53 pm The current clampdown by the FA is as a result of increasing bad behaviour creeping into the game. They are trying to stop this creep and this season have been applying the rules more rigorously. Many types of behaviour like surrounding referees and technical area offences have declined already. Dissent cautions have increased as part of this clampdown but the FA expect this to decline one player/coach behaviour improves.

We have seen a marked increase in time added on for time-wasting and all this surrounding the referee and kicking the ball away at free kicks is disappearing.

Wellens offences are covered by the Laws, law 12, and he is clearly in breach of them. He knows it too and is not contesting the latest one because now he knows the rules he realises he was wrong. No matter how he chooses to describe it.

Thinking the rules are crap is fine, but they are the rules and need to be adhered to. No referees = no football. Think about it!

All of the above stuff they're clamping down on... who bloody cares apart from the suits?

Technical area... who cares, it's great to see managers running up the line with passion

Dissent... get the decisions right then, we're seeing basic errors increasing like not giving fouls on a keeper clearing a ball, and these referees want respect?

What we have is too much meddling in the rougher edges of the game by those who have never played it. Fans don't want the sport sanitised, neither do players, managers or pundits.

In short, reverse all the recent changes, get back to simple definitions of basics like handball, added time and keep it consistent. The rest would follow but this authoritarian, punitive method is just driving an increasing wedge between those "running" the game and those watching and playing it.

As Richie says in his interview, they drain him and I get the same feeling every time VA-farce crops up in MOTD and the same watching inept officials at our level.

You may not care but football, life in general, needs laws. It’s absolutely astounding to think that anyone would believe sport does not need laws/rules. I accept peoples views on whether laws are good or bad but whatever feelings may be, they need to be followed.

RW is a professional and is governed by a set of laws. He may not like them but frankly that’s tough. Lobby to change them, abide by them or get out of the game. If you break them accept you will be punished. Thats life for us all in so many ways. RW needs to Grow up and stop acting like a mate talking down the pub. He is a professional and needs to act like it.