Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
I believe Anderson's comments stem from the lack of met police action against Jew hate within the weekly marches plus the demonstration in Parliament Sq. He patently believes they are acting under Khan's orders to ignore, however I am not saying he is right.
Calls of 'From the river to the sea....' plus the projection of that phrase is just calling for genocide of the Jews in Israel and the obliteration of that country.
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Calls of 'From the river to the sea....' plus the projection of that phrase is just calling for genocide of the Jews in Israel and the obliteration of that country.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
I don't like Anderson at all. In fact I immediately switch over when he comes on GB news. (Yes, horror of horrors I actually watch it on occasions.) I don't believe Muslims control London, like he said, but I do believe he's right by saying that Khan would favour them. No surprise there. Of course he would. Apart from that i can't endear myself to Khan in any way. I find him insincere and a bit of a snide.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
Has any of Khan's actions ever led you to think that or is it simply cause of his own faith and background?
Really am struggling to think of any evidence that supports the idea. I can't think of many religious politicians who cite their faith less when setting out their worldview.
Really am struggling to think of any evidence that supports the idea. I can't think of many religious politicians who cite their faith less when setting out their worldview.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
Blair and Ann Widdicombe, come to mind for some reason changing religion at some point?Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:13 pm Has any of Khan's actions ever led you to think that or is it simply cause of his own faith and background?
Really am struggling to think of any evidence that supports the idea. I can't think of many religious politicians who cite their faith less when setting out their worldview.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
In what way does that answer the question asked?Yanzi Gravy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:29 pmBlair and Ann Widdicombe, come to mind for some reason changing religion at some point?Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:13 pm Has any of Khan's actions ever led you to think that or is it simply cause of his own faith and background?
Really am struggling to think of any evidence that supports the idea. I can't think of many religious politicians who cite their faith less when setting out their worldview.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
Don’t engageProposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:47 pmIn what way does that answer the question asked?Yanzi Gravy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:29 pmBlair and Ann Widdicombe, come to mind for some reason changing religion at some point?Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:13 pm Has any of Khan's actions ever led you to think that or is it simply cause of his own faith and background?
Really am struggling to think of any evidence that supports the idea. I can't think of many religious politicians who cite their faith less when setting out their worldview.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
Constantine The Great called and wants his Empire back.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:35 pmAre there any other religions who have tried to infiltrate institutions and have they been more successful?Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:45 pm Islamists do not 'control' anything meaningful in the UK.
There's an argument to be made that Islamist movements (like other fascists) will seek to infiltrate and erode the veracity of democratic and/or secularist institutions, but they are thankfully inept at doing this effectively and at scale. They're actually more prone to internal divisions and splinter groups than lefties.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
Long live the FuhrerRich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:21 pm Also, there’s a small part of me that can’t help smirk every time I see a far right numpty defending Jews and/or Israel.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
I believe Anderson's comments stem from him being a big fat old racist. Also, he's wrong.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
Do people really think calling for a free Palestine is the same as calling for the genocide of Jews in Israel?
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
C*ntNeptune's Spear wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:48 amLong live the FuhrerRich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:21 pm Also, there’s a small part of me that can’t help smirk every time I see a far right numpty defending Jews and/or Israel.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
There’s a regular O’s fan that many of you will know, one of my elder brother’s schoolmates who I’ve known for decades, and he’s fully invested in the Khan Islamist nonsense. He’s an avid DM reader and has fallen for this nonsense head first, and he gets really wound up if you try and point out the obvious to him. It’s incredible, and also incredibly disappointing.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:17 pm The guys a nut. He’s clearly playing to a specific audience who do think this.
Look at the comments under any post my Khan or about anything he has done. Anderson is just trying the lowest level populism possible and probably succeeding with his audience
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
To be fair, it must be frustrating when you're in government trying to implement your policies - and Islamists, leftie judges, the Deep State, transport workers, doctors, nurses, teachers, postal workers and civil servants are all getting in your way.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
So what do you think 'from the river to the sea....' means? Some sort of rhyming slang?Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:04 amDo people really think calling for a free Palestine is the same as calling for the genocide of Jews in Israel?
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
It’s a rhyming couplet, not rhyming slang. ‘From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’.
The only ones claiming this means something other than for Palestine to be free are those that don’t want Palestine to be free/exist. (Delete as appropriate).
The only ones claiming this means something other than for Palestine to be free are those that don’t want Palestine to be free/exist. (Delete as appropriate).
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
LOL. So it means nothing?Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:56 am It’s a rhyming couplet, not rhyming slang. ‘From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’.
The only ones claiming this means something other than for Palestine to be free are those that don’t want Palestine to be free/exist. (Delete as appropriate).
And if I said to you 'you are a willy...you make me sick' - that means nothing?
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
What do you think Netenyahu meant when he used the phrase last month?
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
It means different things to different people.
I'm fairly certain that most of your middle-class, purple-haired, yoghurt-knitting, protest luvvies don't give it much more thought than as a right-on chant for the liberation of an oppressed minority group. But then there will be some people, possibly including those Islamists everyone is banging on about, who will chant it whilst also believing in the eradication of Jews from the region.
I'm fairly certain that most of your middle-class, purple-haired, yoghurt-knitting, protest luvvies don't give it much more thought than as a right-on chant for the liberation of an oppressed minority group. But then there will be some people, possibly including those Islamists everyone is banging on about, who will chant it whilst also believing in the eradication of Jews from the region.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
Sorry mate, that doesn't scan.DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:41 pmLOL. So it means nothing?Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:56 am It’s a rhyming couplet, not rhyming slang. ‘From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’.
The only ones claiming this means something other than for Palestine to be free are those that don’t want Palestine to be free/exist. (Delete as appropriate).
And if I said to you 'you are a willy...you make me sick' - that means nothing?
Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
Yep: the whole point of sloganeering (and the reason it’s generally a good idea to avoid them) is that the vagueness of what they actually mean is what allows slogans to be used to intimidate even while some people use those slogans with no intention of intimidating anyone.
At the same time, if you adopt a slogan without fully understanding the various ways it can be used, it’s disingenuous to be outraged when you’re assumed to have views you don’t have: chanting a slogan is to categorise yourself into a group that uses it, in doing so, you sacrifice the specificity of your own views in service of the catchiness, at the cost of associating yourself with all uses of the slogan.
At the same time, if you adopt a slogan without fully understanding the various ways it can be used, it’s disingenuous to be outraged when you’re assumed to have views you don’t have: chanting a slogan is to categorise yourself into a group that uses it, in doing so, you sacrifice the specificity of your own views in service of the catchiness, at the cost of associating yourself with all uses of the slogan.
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Re: Do 'Islamists control London/Khan/Starmer'?
Do you accept that that are some people, even if an extremist minority, who do chant that phrase with Anti-Semitic intent?