Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:01 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:18 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:24 pm We look slightly safer, than we did before Christmas, but in the past 53 points hasnt been enough, so we need 22 points from 21 games, with some very hard games to come .
We need decent ( league 1 standard) players in the building, even on loan, theyll improve the standard, and we can buy in the summer

accepting your saying Orient need 54 points to stay up ( I personally do not think they need that many though)

You say Orient need 22 points from 21 games. That is an average of 1.04 points per game

You also say

We need decent ( league 1 standard) players in the building, even on loan, theyll improve the standard, and we can buy in the summer

Yet with the current bunch of players Orient have so far got 32 points from 25 games . That is an average of 1.28 points per game.

The current players are averaging a far higher average points haul than you say the need to survive.

Some would deduce the current squad is therefore good enough to survive and consists of decent league 1 standard players already in the building

Trouble is injuries and suspensions kick in and we don’t have the depth

I agree and don't forget we have all our rivals strengthening as well .

There was guttersnipe talk on FB about the Barrow striker (Emile Acauah) joining us. He's a London lad.

Charlton Athletic are closing in on the signing of Jonson Clarke-Harris from Posh (£ 450,000). Alfie May and JCH looks like a decent partnership.

9 January

Kyran Lofthouse [Barnsley - MK Dons] Loan
Joe Taylor [Luton - Lincoln] Loan
Jensen Weir [Brighton - Port Vale] Loan
Hayden Coulson [Middlesbrough - Blackpool] Loan
Lewis Fiorini [Manchester City - Charlton] Loan

Blackpool have confirmed that Jordan Rhodes (15 goals) will remain at Bloomfield Road for the remainder of the 2023/24 season.

Bergen wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:03 pm 9 January

Kyran Lofthouse [Barnsley - MK Dons] Loan
Joe Taylor [Luton - Lincoln] Loan
Jensen Weir [Brighton - Port Vale] Loan
Hayden Coulson [Middlesbrough - Blackpool] Loan
Lewis Fiorini [Manchester City - Charlton] Loan

Blackpool have confirmed that Jordan Rhodes (15 goals) will remain at Bloomfield Road for the remainder of the 2023/24 season.

I wish we had Jordan Rhodes . That's what you call a striker .

11 January

Joe Adams [Wigan - Morecambe] Loan
Jamie Cumming [Chelsea – Oxford] Loan
Josh Gordon [Burton - Walsall] Loan
Charlie Lakin [Burton - Sutton] Loan
Harry Lewis [Bradford - Carlisle] Undisclosed
Ben Purrington [Ross County - Exeter] Undisclosed
Tyler Burey [Odense - Oxford] Loan
James Belshaw [Bristol Rovers - Harrogate] Undisclosed

And, if we want to sign Nile Ranger ( ) we need to speed up. Phil Brown is lining up Ranger as his first signing at Kidderminster Harriers.

We are 9 points off the drop zone. We are certainly not safe - if we have a bad window and teams around us strengthen...

How many L1 clubs have still yet to sign anyone?

12 January – a busy day

Macaulay Gillesphey (Plymouth Argyle - Charlton) Undisclosed
Harry Boyes [Sheff Utd - Fleetwood] Loan
Luke Chambers [Liverpool - Wigan] Loan
Conor Coventry [West Ham - Charlton] Undisclosed
Alex Rodriguez Gorrin [Oxford United - Forest Green] Free
Joe Hugill [Manchester United - Burton] Loan
Gideon Kodua [West Ham - Wycombe] Loan
Matt Macey [Unattached - Portsmouth] Free
Lyle Taylor [Wycombe - Cambridge United] Free
Doug Tharme [Blackpool - Grimsby] Undisclosed
Dominic Thompson [Blackpool - Forest Green] Loan
Josh Oluwayemi [Portsmouth - FC Lahti] Undisclosed

Reading`s Tom Holmes and Nelson Abbey could be set for a Premier League switch to Luton Town. It looks like The Royals could do with the money .

Are there any other L1 clubs who have still yet to sign anyone?

The most staggering thing is that the two players we're supposedly most interested in - Cooper and Kelman - have both been here in recent times, Cooper up until last week, we should have established channels of dialogue into both clubs, yet somehow we're now halfway through the transfer window and still haven't been able to conclude anything.

I know results and performances are both excellent at present but that you can only continue flogging the same core group of players for so long before injuries creep back in.

Get the deals done FFS.

I'd be underwhelmed with both of those.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:03 am I'd be underwhelmed with both of those.

Agreed, think they will sign Cooper,why I don’t know perhaps there’s more to this signing that we know,personally I wouldn’t sign Kelman even if he payed us to play.

I don't think Kelman will sign - RW said on Saturday Cooper was nearly done and that we need another wide player and that's what I expect we'll get.

Cooper is only 23 and can develop further, he is a decent centre half that's if he reels in his tendency to lose his discipline.

Kelman is a weird one.
Looked the real deal at the start of last season and then looked awful and lacking confidence for the rest of the year.
But, he had a lot of potential and did well at Southend. I also think our current system, squad and league would suit him better. Could see him in Fordes role when we need to rotate the squad

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:03 am I'd be underwhelmed with both of those.

Me too, definitely. (Although I can understand Cooper as the longer term replacement for Beckles in the less-cultured, leader CB role, I guess).

But whoever it's going to be, just get it done before the injuries start up again.

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:26 am Kelman is a weird one.
Looked the real deal at the start of last season and then looked awful and lacking confidence for the rest of the year.
But, he had a lot of potential and did well at Southend. I also think our current system, squad and league would suit him better. Could see him in Fordes role when we need to rotate the squad

Think he's out of contract at QPR in the summer and I could see us signing him then but we have Forde, Ageyi, Ruel, Pigott and Drinan at the moment that's more than enough.

Bergen wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:17 pm Charlton Athletic are closing in on the signing of Jonson Clarke-Harris from Posh (£ 450,000). Alfie May and JCH looks like a decent partnership.

Also signed Conor Coventry from West Ham for a reported £200k.

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:26 am Kelman is a weird one.
Looked the real deal at the start of last season and then looked awful and lacking confidence for the rest of the year.
But, he had a lot of potential and did well at Southend. I also think our current system, squad and league would suit him better. Could see him in Fordes role when we need to rotate the squad

Not a fan as I've said many a time, but have to bow down to Richie's judgement on it.

I don't think Kelman has the pace or power to lead the line alone. But yes, I could see him playing the same role as Shaq did on Saturday. Forde wasn't playing as a traditional wide right when we had the ball (as Theo was doing on the left), he was coming a lot narrower and supporting Agyei, which he had to do as Sanders was playing more like an 8 alongside Idris rather than a 10. If Forde didn't do that, Agyei would have been isolated. That would suit Charlie too.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:27 am

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:03 am I'd be underwhelmed with both of those.

Me too, definitely. (Although I can understand Cooper as the longer term replacement for Beckles in the less-cultured, leader CB role, I guess).

But whoever it's going to be, just get it done before the injuries start up again.

Less cultured?

Yes, less cultured. Beckles I'm sure will be the first to admit he's less cultured than Happe.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:03 am I'd be underwhelmed with both of those.

On the plus side Richie knows both players very well so knows what they can offer .

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:29 am

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:26 am Kelman is a weird one.
Looked the real deal at the start of last season and then looked awful and lacking confidence for the rest of the year.
But, he had a lot of potential and did well at Southend. I also think our current system, squad and league would suit him better. Could see him in Fordes role when we need to rotate the squad

Think he's out of contract at QPR in the summer and I could see us signing him then but we have Forde, Ageyi, Ruel, Pigott and Drinan at the moment that's more than enough.

Respectfully disagree.

Can’t see Drinan ever being fit and even if he is he offers next to nothing.
Pigott doesn’t seem to work in our system and looks like a dud so far.
Ruel hasn’t scored for however long.
Forde can be recalled (I assume)
Ageyi just back from a bad injury.

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:07 am

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:29 am

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:26 am Kelman is a weird one.
Looked the real deal at the start of last season and then looked awful and lacking confidence for the rest of the year.
But, he had a lot of potential and did well at Southend. I also think our current system, squad and league would suit him better. Could see him in Fordes role when we need to rotate the squad

Think he's out of contract at QPR in the summer and I could see us signing him then but we have Forde, Ageyi, Ruel, Pigott and Drinan at the moment that's more than enough.

Respectfully disagree.

Can’t see Drinan ever being fit and even if he is he offers next to nothing.
Pigott doesn’t seem to work in our system and looks like a dud so far.
Ruel hasn’t scored for however long.
Forde can be recalled (I assume)
Ageyi just back from a bad injury.

No I get all of that RTW and you are not wrong, and I also agree that he would fit into the way we play - I suspect Drinan will go in summer as his contracts up and Pigott has not contributed as much as we would have liked but given the choice at the moment and given our lack of funds we need a winger more than another striker because as it stands we can't rest Theo without changing our shape.

Agreed, wide player absolutely the priority. It was even before Graham's injury.

15 January

Tony Springett [Norwich - Northampton] Loan
Donovan Pines [DC United - Barnsley] Free

USL star, and former Orient loanee, Kazaiah Sterling is (allegedly) back in England training with an EFL League One side. He has scored 30 goals in 48 games for South Georgia Tormenta.