Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:56 am I don't think he has it in him to play as a no.10. He isn't a creative player and becomes a bit of a passenger in the build up play when he's in that position. It's the same issue as when he's on the wing - he's just too peripheral, his decision making too poor and too lacking in physicality to really impose himself on the game. Has looked occasionally passable in those positions isn't the same as doing well.

I think he could be a decent League 1 forward option as a no.9 as part of a front 2, but otherwise he isn't good enough for this level.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:56 am I don't think he has it in him to play as a no.10. He isn't a creative player and becomes a bit of a passenger in the build up play when he's in that position. It's the same issue as when he's on the wing - he's just too peripheral, his decision making too poor and too lacking in physicality to really impose himself on the game. Has looked occasionally passable in those positions isn't the same as doing well.

I think he could be a decent League 1 forward option as a no.9 as part of a front 2, but otherwise he isn't good enough for this level.

Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:51 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:56 am I don't think he has it in him to play as a no.10. He isn't a creative player and becomes a bit of a passenger in the build up play when he's in that position. It's the same issue as when he's on the wing - he's just too peripheral, his decision making too poor and too lacking in physicality to really impose himself on the game. Has looked occasionally passable in those positions isn't the same as doing well.

I think he could be a decent League 1 forward option as a no.9 as part of a front 2, but otherwise he isn't good enough for this level.

His best goals have all been when he doesnt have time to think, He hasnt got the footbaalling brain to be a 10. Definitely the sort to thrive on knockdowns from a big lump, we just dont play that game.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:04 pm

Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:51 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:56 am I don't think he has it in him to play as a no.10. He isn't a creative player and becomes a bit of a passenger in the build up play when he's in that position. It's the same issue as when he's on the wing - he's just too peripheral, his decision making too poor and too lacking in physicality to really impose himself on the game. Has looked occasionally passable in those positions isn't the same as doing well.

I think he could be a decent League 1 forward option as a no.9 as part of a front 2, but otherwise he isn't good enough for this level.

His best goals have all been when he doesnt have time to think, He hasnt got the footbaalling brain to be a 10. Definitely the sort to thrive on knockdowns from a big lump, we just dont play that game.

Can’t believe I’m agreeing with you for once

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:04 pm

Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:51 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:56 am I don't think he has it in him to play as a no.10. He isn't a creative player and becomes a bit of a passenger in the build up play when he's in that position. It's the same issue as when he's on the wing - he's just too peripheral, his decision making too poor and too lacking in physicality to really impose himself on the game. Has looked occasionally passable in those positions isn't the same as doing well.

I think he could be a decent League 1 forward option as a no.9 as part of a front 2, but otherwise he isn't good enough for this level.

His best goals have all been when he doesnt have time to think, He hasnt got the footbaalling brain to be a 10. Definitely the sort to thrive on knockdowns from a big lump, we just dont play that game.

Can’t believe I’m agreeing with you for once

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:10 pm He should only ever be an impact sub.

The problem is when we have to rely on squad players such as Ruel for a prolonged period of time.

Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:40 am GShaw never has a good work about him Sweeney or Brown. He hates young players especially those from the Academy like Happe. It is a theme

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:34 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:10 pm He should only ever be an impact sub.

The problem is when we have to rely on squad players such as Ruel for a prolonged period of time.

This is the theme that LLF refers to below. We have certain players that are at best squad players that some give extra leeway on basis of being "young players".

As the phrase goes if they're good enough they're old enough and in the same vein if they're not we need more quality to be competitive further up the league.

Some care about developing the careers of young players to do well elsewhere, personally I couldn't care less what they do in the future only whether Orient are winning right now.

Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:40 am GShaw never has a good work about him Sweeney or Brown. He hates young players especially those from the Academy like Happe. It is a theme

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:34 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:10 pm He should only ever be an impact sub.

The problem is when we have to rely on squad players such as Ruel for a prolonged period of time.

This is the theme that LLF refers to below. We have certain players that are at best squad players that some give extra leeway on basis of being "young players".

As the phrase goes if they're good enough they're old enough and in the same vein if they're not we need more quality to be competitive further up the league.

Some care about developing the careers of young players to do well elsewhere, personally I couldn't care less what they do in the future only whether Orient are winning right now.

Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:40 am GShaw never has a good work about him Sweeney or Brown. He hates young players especially those from the Academy like Happe. It is a theme

We don’t have the budget to have two Dan Agyeis fighting it out for the number 9 slot and 2 Moncurs for the number 10. You have to have cheap squad fillers at this level.

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:28 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:34 pm

This is the theme that LLF refers to below. We have certain players that are at best squad players that some give extra leeway on basis of being "young players".

As the phrase goes if they're good enough they're old enough and in the same vein if they're not we need more quality to be competitive further up the league.

Some care about developing the careers of young players to do well elsewhere, personally I couldn't care less what they do in the future only whether Orient are winning right now.

We don’t have the budget to have two Dan Agyeis fighting it out for the number 9 slot and 2 Moncurs for the number 10. You have to have cheap squad fillers at this level.

Well we do but unfortunately Pigott is proving to be a busted flush as it stands.

Moncur is the other one we need to move on as he just doesn't seem to be anywhere near fit enough for L1 which is a shame

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:28 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:34 pm

This is the theme that LLF refers to below. We have certain players that are at best squad players that some give extra leeway on basis of being "young players".

As the phrase goes if they're good enough they're old enough and in the same vein if they're not we need more quality to be competitive further up the league.

Some care about developing the careers of young players to do well elsewhere, personally I couldn't care less what they do in the future only whether Orient are winning right now.

We don’t have the budget to have two Dan Agyeis fighting it out for the number 9 slot and 2 Moncurs for the number 10. You have to have cheap squad fillers at this level.

Well we do but unfortunately Pigott is proving to be a busted flush as it stands.

Moncur is the other one we need to move on as he just doesn't seem to be anywhere near fit enough for L1 which is a shame

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:28 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:34 pm

This is the theme that LLF refers to below. We have certain players that are at best squad players that some give extra leeway on basis of being "young players".

As the phrase goes if they're good enough they're old enough and in the same vein if they're not we need more quality to be competitive further up the league.

Some care about developing the careers of young players to do well elsewhere, personally I couldn't care less what they do in the future only whether Orient are winning right now.

We don’t have the budget to have two Dan Agyeis fighting it out for the number 9 slot and 2 Moncurs for the number 10. You have to have cheap squad fillers at this level.

Well we do but unfortunately Pigott is proving to be a busted flush as it stands.

Moncur is the other one we need to move on as he just doesn't seem to be anywhere near fit enough for L1 which is a shame

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:54 pm
If we let Ruel go, we're not going to bring in another Agyei to replace him.