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That's always been the case. Absolutely no end product. Good for free kicks though...

As much as I rate Joe W, I prefer Brophy in that LWB role especially if there is not a tricky right winger playing against us. He offers much more going forward even if the end product is not there - at the moment. I expect Webby will be hammering that into him this week.

I think Cheltenham got their tactics massively wrong by trying to match us up. Their wing-backs offered absolutely nothing offensively, so Brophy and Ling were often not marking anybody, which made their lives much easier. Two proper wingers could have caused us a few problems, with probably our two potential weak areas being the two wing-back positions.

Brophy did a good job on Saturday and as the season progresses maybe offers an upgrade on the position.I doubt it will be a major issue in the short term however as I imagine Embleton will recall Widdowson as soon as he is fit as the more tried and tested option.

People who don’t think Widdowson is up to League 2 standards are frankly talking bolox. He has spent most of his Career at L1/L2 level and if he weren’t up to it would have got found out by now. 10 years, 200 league games. I think he has proved his ability.

Solid player, nothing flash, yet still ten times better going forward than Ling. Brophy offers much more going forward but isn’t a better defender. Not pushed on Saturday by Cheltenham. Brophy may be a better bet in those games where we will control possession but up against sides who will attack us then Widdowson is the man. LB ain’t one of our problem areas.

There is a time and place for Brophy, being first choice LB ain’t one of them when we are up against teams who will attack us.

Good job he isnt playing LB then.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:12 pm Good job he isnt playing LB then.

LB, LWB, Full Back, defender, number 3, call it want you want. Same difference. Inane comment. Adds F- all to the discussion. Stupidity personified.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:28 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:12 pm Good job he isnt playing LB then.

LB, LWB, Full Back, defender, number 3, call it want you want. Same difference. Inane comment. Adds F- all to the discussion. Stupidity personified.

Left back and Left wing-back are very different positions with very different requirements.

Brophy IMO is wasted in a defensive position

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:03 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:28 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:12 pm Good job he isnt playing LB then.

LB, LWB, Full Back, defender, number 3, call it want you want. Same difference. Inane comment. Adds F- all to the discussion. Stupidity personified.

Left back and Left wing-back are very different positions with very different requirements.

The point being we go to games, we see how these players are being deployed and the systems we play and have played. We all know this, if we go regularly. I give people the credit for knowing this stuff so don’t get hung up on terminology. Assuming they go to games. I treat people like they have brains.

Just admit you were wrong man, its not that painful.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:35 pm Just admit you were wrong man, its not that painful.

Yawn. You appear to be like a silly little boy. Grow up.

Just pointing out to you that Brophy wasnt playing LB on Saturday. Why all the abuse?

Doh fucks up again and gets all pissy.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:07 pm Just pointing out to you that Brophy wasnt playing LB on Saturday. Why all the abuse?

Because you seem to enjoy making pointless one line comments that add very little to the conversation. Tends to destroy decent discussions. Destructive posting style. But then you know that.

Your entire point was built around Brophy playing LB, just pointing out to you that he's not playing LB.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:51 pm Your entire point was built around Brophy playing LB, just pointing out to you that he's not playing LB.

Actually the main thrust was about Widdowson. And I’ve covered the LB comment. However, just for you, when I talk about any player I’ll be sure to waste a few paragraphs explains the ins and outs of a ducks arse just for you.

Will you admit that LB LWB are different positions?

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:07 pm Brophy IMO is wasted in an attacking position

I fixed your post for you...

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:54 pm Will you admit that LB LWB are different positions?

I think Nutty should only accept this when you accept that his points are valid regardless whether its LB or LWB.

In defensive situations Widdowson is more reliable than Brophy. His attacking influence is far less than it should be (he's never scored a FL goal) and at 25 he should be experienced enough to be having a positive effect on games.

Brophy is obviously a better attacker and Widdowson a much better defender. Take your pick.

LittleMate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:56 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:54 pm Will you admit that LB LWB are different positions?

I think Nutty should only accept this when you accept that his points are valid regardless whether its LB or LWB.

In defensive situations Widdowson is more reliable than Brophy. His attacking influence is far less than it should be (he's never scored a FL goal) and at 25 he should be experienced enough to be having a positive effect on games.

Yes he would have a valid point if we were playing a formation with a LB.

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Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:54 pm Will you admit that LB LWB are different positions?

Ive covered this. I’m referring to the generic role these players are being compared for. I frankly don’t give a toss whether people call them LB, LWB, Defender, attacking full back, defensive wing back or whether we are plYong 442 532 352 5212 or whatever is flavour of the day. I was comparing Widdowson and Brophy and their merits in the role they occupy. A concept beyond your comprehension.

I find it redious in the extreme when people don’t have the imagination to look at the bigger picture. Tiny minds.

Shame, but there you are.