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Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:14 am
by Tuffers#2
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:06 am
Joe315 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:58 am
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:51 am

Well, hold on a minute I didn’t say 442 I just said we need two up front because one ain’t doing it,and we haven’t got a lead striker also Theo is far better playing in an attacking position. And for those who think that 442 is outdated then 433,5311,3511 ain’t doing it either at the moment. Easy to criticise when you haven’t come up with a credible alternative. And if playing a big man and little man up front mean we win more games then I’m all for it. 235 if you played that formation the opposition wouldn’t know who and how to mark that👍 excellent idea.
Ah the IF word. :clown
I’ll agree with the the Rev on this. Thanks for your comment Tuffers👍
I'm not him though. Agree with who you want. You still fail to understand this being about things like belief, determination, unwillingness to give up, fight & not about formations.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:17 am
by Tuffers#2
BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:24 am I love it when a team isn’t playing well and fans demand 442 like its the key to winning football.
Someone understands. Thanks

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:17 am
by Long slender neck
I think the confidence and team spirit has gone. I dont like the formations/lineup either.

Big personalities have gone or been sidelined- Vig, Beckles, Moncs, Smyth.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:19 am
by Monkey Boy
Joe315 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:14 am
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:06 am
Joe315 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:58 am

Ah the IF word. :clown
I’ll agree with the the Rev on this. Thanks for your comment Tuffers👍
I'm not him though. Agree with who you want. You still fail to understand this being about things like belief, determination, unwillingness to give up, fight & not about formations.
Of course you are, who do I want? Winning is about everything not just one thing.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:23 am
by Tuffers#2
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:19 am
Joe315 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:14 am
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:06 am

I’ll agree with the the Rev on this. Thanks for your comment Tuffers👍
I'm not him though. Agree with who you want. You still fail to understand this being about things like belief, determination, unwillingness to give up, fight & not about formations.
Of course you are,
I'm not though.
Check my email & my Imei number .

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:24 am
by Monkey Boy
Long slender neck wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:17 am I think the confidence and team spirit has gone. I dont like the formations/lineup either.

Big personalities have gone or been sidelined- Vig, Beckles, Moncs, Smyth.
Yes you have a very good point and that’s one of my points plus I’ve been observing the keeper. He’s not vocal enough for me, he has a better view than most to see what’s happening in front of him,Vigs was more experienced and was a permanent signing,Bryn is young and will bugger off at the end of the season no matter what. Not that I’m saying he’s a bad keeper but lacks experience.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:25 am
by Monkey Boy
Joe315 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:23 am
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:19 am
Joe315 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:14 am

I'm not him though. Agree with who you want. You still fail to understand this being about things like belief, determination, unwillingness to give up, fight & not about formations.
Of course you are,
I'm not though.
Check my email & my Imei number .
Come on mate confess,your feel better in the morning 👍

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:28 am
by DrWindy
Long slender neck wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:17 am I think the confidence and team spirit has gone. I dont like the formations/lineup either.

Big personalities have gone or been sidelined- Vig, Beckles, Moncs, Smyth.
I agree entirely. Do you pick your formation and choose your players or look at what’s available and pick your formation? I favour the latter right now. We need to change something.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:36 am
by Monkey Boy
DrWindy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:28 am
Long slender neck wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:17 am I think the confidence and team spirit has gone. I dont like the formations/lineup either.

Big personalities have gone or been sidelined- Vig, Beckles, Moncs, Smyth.
I agree entirely. Do you pick your formation and choose your players or look at what’s available and pick your formation? I favour the latter right now. We need to change something.
Putting square pegs in round holes ain’t going to work gentlemen,playing Theo as wing back isn’t his best position, playing Drinan up front was like playing with 10 men,to many players were brought in who play in a similar way,Brown,Miz and Prats all the same, Sanders,Galbraith and Moncur to a certain extinct all the same. Think we may need to bring Beccles back but I worry about his pace.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:37 am
by Mistadobalina
We switched our formation in the last few games already.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:43 am
by Monkey Boy
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:37 am We switched our formation in the last few games already.
Then 442 it is me old mate🤭😉😂

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:55 am
by Long slender neck
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:36 am
DrWindy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:28 am
Long slender neck wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:17 am I think the confidence and team spirit has gone. I dont like the formations/lineup either.

Big personalities have gone or been sidelined- Vig, Beckles, Moncs, Smyth.
I agree entirely. Do you pick your formation and choose your players or look at what’s available and pick your formation? I favour the latter right now. We need to change something.
Putting square pegs in round holes ain’t going to work gentlemen,playing Theo as wing back isn’t his best position, playing Drinan up front was like playing with 10 men,to many players were brought in who play in a similar way,Brown,Miz and Prats all the same, Sanders,Galbraith and Moncur to a certain extinct all the same. Think we may need to bring Beccles back but I worry about his pace.
Nobody has suggested Theo as wingback.

Beckles is injured, I think.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:57 am
by Tuffers#2
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:25 am
Joe315 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:23 am
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:19 am

Of course you are,
I'm not though.
Check my email & my Imei number .
Come on mate confess,your feel better in the morning 👍
Not him, you do seem to have taken over from d.e.bot as my number 1 stalker though. Now thats no coincedence.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:03 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Long slender neck wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:12 am
DrWindy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:52 am My take is we give it a bloody good go on Saturday and take it to them. So, we go 4-4-2.

Bryn
James Cooper Turns Hunt
Agyei Brown El Miz Theo
Ruel Piggot

Piggot told to shape up or ship out.

If we play anything like yesterday we will get thumped.
I think Ruel is now injured.
According to Richie's interview Ruel's injury will be assessed today . So at this moment in time he's only 50/50 for Saturday .

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:07 pm
by Monkey Boy
Joe315 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:57 am
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:25 am
Joe315 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:23 am

I'm not though.
Check my email & my Imei number .
Come on mate confess,your feel better in the morning 👍
Not him, you do seem to have taken over from d.e.bot as my number 1 stalker though. Now thats no coincedence.
Think of it as therapy and only tuffers can talk the way you do. So that’s you and Soloman sussed just got to work out your others👍

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:11 pm
by Monkey Boy
Long slender neck wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:55 am
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:36 am
DrWindy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:28 am

I agree entirely. Do you pick your formation and choose your players or look at what’s available and pick your formation? I favour the latter right now. We need to change something.
Putting square pegs in round holes ain’t going to work gentlemen,playing Theo as wing back isn’t his best position, playing Drinan up front was like playing with 10 men,to many players were brought in who play in a similar way,Brown,Miz and Prats all the same, Sanders,Galbraith and Moncur to a certain extinct all the same. Think we may need to bring Beccles back but I worry about his pace.
Nobody has suggested Theo as wingback.

Beckles is injured, I think.
Think Theo has been playing as a wing back in fact he keeps swapping him from left sided and right side attacker and as left wingback💁 I know Beckles is injured but he’s due back soon I believe

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:13 pm
by Tuffers#2
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:07 pm
Joe315 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:57 am
Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:25 am

Come on mate confess,your feel better in the morning 👍
Not him, you do seem to have taken over from d.e.bot as my number 1 stalker though. Now thats no coincedence.
Think of it as therapy and only tuffers can talk the way you do. So that’s you and Soloman sussed just got to work out your others👍
Allegations without proof, MB Breaking rules on the MB.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:15 pm
by Tuffers#2
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:03 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:12 am
DrWindy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:52 am My take is we give it a bloody good go on Saturday and take it to them. So, we go 4-4-2.

Bryn
James Cooper Turns Hunt
Agyei Brown El Miz Theo
Ruel Piggot

Piggot told to shape up or ship out.

If we play anything like yesterday we will get thumped.
I think Ruel is now injured.
According to Richie's interview Ruel's injury will be assessed today . So at this moment in time he's only 50/50 for Saturday .
Omar still out for close to a month.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:50 pm
by Chief crazy horse
I don't think the opening post is such a 'daft' question because we play more for show. Don't get me wrong I love watching our play and having more possession of the ball than our opponents. But, like I've said before there's far too much emphasis on tippy tapping our way up to the penalty area and not enough emphasis on killer passes, movement and more bodies in the box. In other words rather than always looking good mix up our play a bit more.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:34 pm
by Tuffers#2
Chief crazy horse wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:50 pm I don't think the opening post is such a 'daft' question because we play more for show. Don't get me wrong I love watching our play and having more possession of the ball than our opponents. But, like I've said before there's far too much emphasis on tippy tapping our way up to the penalty area and not enough emphasis on killer passes, movement and more bodies in the box. In other words rather than always looking good mix up our play a bit more.
Find a way CCH. Would it do any harm to put some gloves on & thump each other. Anything to wake them up.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:52 pm
by Story of O
Other teams play out from the back, but with greater speed and purpose

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:58 pm
by Tuffers#2
Story of O wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:52 pm Other teams play out from the back, but with greater speed and purpose
Examples, so we can scout ?

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:59 pm
by Hoover Attack
Chief crazy horse wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:50 pm I don't think the opening post is such a 'daft' question because we play more for show. Don't get me wrong I love watching our play and having more possession of the ball than our opponents. But, like I've said before there's far too much emphasis on tippy tapping our way up to the penalty area and not enough emphasis on killer passes, movement and more bodies in the box. In other words rather than always looking good mix up our play a bit more.
It is a daft question. He also calls our possession based approach 'tippy tappy' football, which is equally daft.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:24 pm
by Mistadobalina
Amazing that 'playing more for show' can also get you 91 points in a season. Wanting to control the game isn't about vanity, it's a legitimate tactic that has brought us success, even if we're in poor form right now.

Re: Do we Play to win ?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:29 pm
by Chief crazy horse
Just to remind you, that was a division lower.