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Beckles is going nowhere however I can see Moncur going . Richie likes Drinan so I'm not sure about him .Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:44 pm I can see Moncur, Beckles and when fit Drinan going out on loan in January to free up some Money and get some games, Defensively we haven’t been too bad but losing Graham was a real blow I would bring in a winger and a striker.
Do people think we could afford his wages.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:52 pmBilly Sharp has been mentioned on here before . It's an interesting idea but I don't know . It's down to the club to decide if whether we should go for him . He's a free agent after leaving LA Galaxy so if we decided we wanted him we could go for him straight away .
Apart from stints at Southampton and Reading (who were both in the Championship/Premiership at the time) 10 years ago Sharp has played the entirety of his career in the north. Yes, he recently had what I imagine was a nice retirement payday in the USA, but I cannot see why he would be interested in moving down south to play for a mid table L1 club. I doubt we could afford him anyway.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:52 pmBilly Sharp has been mentioned on here before . It's an interesting idea but I don't know . It's down to the club to decide if whether we should go for him . He's a free agent after leaving LA Galaxy so if we decided we wanted him we could go for him straight away .
Shift how ?gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:27 pmGet Ling to earn his (extremely large) wage at shifting Moncur, Thompson and Sweeney to League 2 clubs to free up money for wages. I'd cash in on Sotiriou and Happe too as both could attract a fee and can go for free in summer, calculated gamble but money is money. Drinan would've been on the list too but now he's injured I think no chance of moving on now.
Also fire the Set Piece Coach who should never have been appointed in the first place.
We aren't struggling with FFPBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:42 pmWe’re the only club struggling with FFP in League 1. Its all a load of bollocks.
I know we’re not, but the owners are the only ones in the league talking about FFP.Joe315 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:19 amWe aren't struggling with FFPBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:42 pmWe’re the only club struggling with FFP in League 1. Its all a load of bollocks.
We are struggling with Injured players &
A very poor style to those we have fit.
Can you show your workings here? If you're a Reading or Fleetwood fan, having a chairman talk about what the budget is on a podcast would feel like a godsend compared to having the person in charge jailed or completely absent.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:22 amI know we’re not, but the owners are the only ones in the league talking about FFP.Joe315 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:19 amWe aren't struggling with FFPBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:42 pm
We’re the only club struggling with FFP in League 1. Its all a load of bollocks.
We are struggling with Injured players &
A very poor style to those we have fit.
As someone else said on here, staff budget is a seperate entity to playing budget.gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:19 pmIf money is that tight you don't waste 50k on a set piece coach. Something is very suspect about it all.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:15 pm So whose fault is it that we have had to spend our wage budget up front because of loads of injuries in August? Our wage money is spent and we have to wheel and deal.
Your only answer to everything is to put in more money. Keep on doing that and clubs get into serious trouble and you will still be blaming the same people if that happens.
You sure about that ?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:22 amI know we’re not, but the owners are the only ones in the league talking about FFP.Joe315 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:19 amWe aren't struggling with FFPBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:42 pm
We’re the only club struggling with FFP in League 1. Its all a load of bollocks.
We are struggling with Injured players &
A very poor style to those we have fit.
I agree with the rest of it, injuries in areas we’re already light has f*cked us.
YesMistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:27 amCan you show your workings here? If you're a Reading or Fleetwood fan, having a chairman talk about what the budget is on a podcast would feel like a godsend compared to having the person in charge jailed or completely absent.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:22 amI know we’re not, but the owners are the only ones in the league talking about FFP.
That is a big IF they want to go of course.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:44 pm I can see Moncur, Beckles and when fit Drinan going out on loan in January to free up some Money and get some games, Defensively we haven’t been too bad but losing Graham was a real blow I would bring in a winger and a striker.
Whoops another tuffers alias uncovered,that’s two now you fingers must be working 19 to the dozensoloman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:29 amThat is a big IF they want to go of course.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:44 pm I can see Moncur, Beckles and when fit Drinan going out on loan in January to free up some Money and get some games, Defensively we haven’t been too bad but losing Graham was a real blow I would bring in a winger and a striker.
Probably not but if you don't ask you don't get . At this stage of his career he might lower his expectations. Even if it's doable I'm still not sure about signing him .Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:41 pmDo people think we could afford his wages.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:52 pmBilly Sharp has been mentioned on here before . It's an interesting idea but I don't know . It's down to the club to decide if whether we should go for him . He's a free agent after leaving LA Galaxy so if we decided we wanted him we could go for him straight away .
Not a chance in hell im afraidRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:07 pmProbably not but if you don't ask you don't get . At this stage of his career he might lower his expectations. Even if it's doable I'm still not sure about signing him .Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:41 pmDo people think we could afford his wages.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:52 pm
Billy Sharp has been mentioned on here before . It's an interesting idea but I don't know . It's down to the club to decide if whether we should go for him . He's a free agent after leaving LA Galaxy so if we decided we wanted him we could go for him straight away .
Indeed they can, though for Thompson it's about fixing himself up with a move for summer as it clearly won't be with us. Before hamstrings struck again would've said same for Drinan.Joe315 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:16 amShift how ?gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:27 pmGet Ling to earn his (extremely large) wage at shifting Moncur, Thompson and Sweeney to League 2 clubs to free up money for wages. I'd cash in on Sotiriou and Happe too as both could attract a fee and can go for free in summer, calculated gamble but money is money. Drinan would've been on the list too but now he's injured I think no chance of moving on now.
Also fire the Set Piece Coach who should never have been appointed in the first place.
Moncur Sweeney & Thompson can all say,
I'm stayin till my contracts done. The only way to clear them out is paying up Contracts.
Moncur 18 months Sweeney the same, Thompson wont be renewed. Happe won't do anything for the O's that threatens any move that benefits him.
Ruel you say who wants him ?
Thompson will be coaching .gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:56 pmIndeed they can, though for Thompson it's about fixing himself up with a move for summer as it clearly won't be with us. Before hamstrings struck again would've said same for Drinan.Joe315 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:16 amShift how ?gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:27 pm
Get Ling to earn his (extremely large) wage at shifting Moncur, Thompson and Sweeney to League 2 clubs to free up money for wages. I'd cash in on Sotiriou and Happe too as both could attract a fee and can go for free in summer, calculated gamble but money is money. Drinan would've been on the list too but now he's injured I think no chance of moving on now.
Also fire the Set Piece Coach who should never have been appointed in the first place.
Moncur Sweeney & Thompson can all say,
I'm stayin till my contracts done. The only way to clear them out is paying up Contracts.
Moncur 18 months Sweeney the same, Thompson wont be renewed. Happe won't do anything for the O's that threatens any move that benefits him.
Ruel you say who wants him ?
Sweeney might be open to a move to get game time and kick on as he's 3rd choice here at best.
Moncur is a difficult one, long contract and penny for this thoughts around why his fitness is proving such an issue. Again not sure how bothered / not he is by being benched, could be of interest for a higher L2 side though would likely be limited to local moves so... Gillingham
Sotiriou would be a worthwhile punt for the likes of Peterborough who have the luxury to put players in development for a while. Pocket change for them, vital funds for us.
Happe may well have something lined up, not sure how that January clause works will be interesting to see how it pans out.
Unless we can bring in the right player or two next month I’m not so sure . Those Chesterfield and Lincoln games has the alarm bells ringing. I can understand we’re currently lacking in creativity but where is the heart , determination and desire to win gone to.Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:28 am I’m afraid that it’s not going to happen chaps,I wish and hope it would but nah. However I think we have enough to stay up
I doubt if many fans of other clubs know what our owners say.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:19 amYesMistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:27 amCan you show your workings here? If you're a Reading or Fleetwood fan, having a chairman talk about what the budget is on a podcast would feel like a godsend compared to having the person in charge jailed or completely absent.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:22 am
I know we’re not, but the owners are the only ones in the league talking about FFP.
I’ve heard our owners talk about FFP. I haven’t heard other owners talk about FFP.
Stevenage are a great example of how to do things properly.
I think Teams can spend more than their budget if the money comes as a gift to the club from a director or outside source. I suspect clubs like clubs like Gillingham or Salford have done this in the past. If we need to spend more than the budget to keep us in L 1 this is one way of achieving this. The problem is who is going to be the providerTop of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:15 pm So whose fault is it that we have had to spend our wage budget up front because of loads of injuries in August? Our wage money is spent and we have to wheel and deal.
Your only answer to everything is to put in more money. Keep on doing that and clubs get into serious trouble and you will still be blaming the same people if that happens.
Hi Red, yes you have a good point, many opinions on here point out different things that are going wrong at the moment, imo it’s not just down to one thing. A football club is a bit like a clock, if one of the cogs ain’t turning, then the whole watch stops, hows that for an analogy?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:58 amUnless we can bring in the right player or two next month I’m not so sure . Those Chesterfield and Lincoln games has the alarm bells ringing. I can understand we’re currently lacking in creativity but where is the heart , determination and desire to win gone to.Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:28 am I’m afraid that it’s not going to happen chaps,I wish and hope it would but nah. However I think we have enough to stay up
it’s down to Richie to sort that out and that’s what he gets paid for and as for the finances that’s obviously down to the board. Personally I wouldn’t hold your breath as far as spending money is concerned we are not a rich club