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Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:17 am
by JimbO
banqo wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:51 pm I don't know of any season ticket holders around me that are going.
I'm a season ticket holder and going. Generally don't miss an FA cup game.

The other two cup comps you can poke.

I live in Waltham Forest so don't have the travel issues that others do.

Also don't think our interminably pony ticket system doesn't help.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:34 pm
by Real Al
A sellout 1500 crowd will be at Sheppey to see their first ever 1st round appearance against Walsall. The magic is still there - you just have to search for it.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:54 pm
by RBMarshall
I hope the club recognise those who showed interest in the competition, if tickets are at a premium later on.
In my opinion it would be fair to offer tickets to stub holders of tickets for rounds one and two before offering them to season ticket holders.
Investing in assuring tickets for a potential big away day would surely boost the gate.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:38 pm
by OyinbO
RBMarshall wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:54 pm I hope the club recognise those who showed interest in the competition, if tickets are at a premium later on.
In my opinion it would be fair to offer tickets to stub holders of tickets for rounds one and two before offering them to season ticket holders.
Investing in assuring tickets for a potential big away day would surely boost the gate.
Difficult to imagine an attractive away game that would attract more Orient season ticket holders than could be accommodated

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:56 pm
by banqo
timothy wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 7:55 am
banqo wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:01 pm I can't be bothered with paying £25 train fare and £15 to get in and the weather forecast is crap.
Banqo, if you come to the game on Saturday I'll buy you a ticket for
the Final if we get there.
Timmo, as tempting as that sounds 🤯, I'll give it a miss and see you against Oxford!!

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:43 pm
by Orient_Man_And_Boy
SC holder and I’ll be there; 70 mile round trip won’t deter me.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:36 am
by banqo
Orient_Man_And_Boy wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:43 pm SC holder and I’ll be there; 70 mile round trip won’t deter me.
70 miles is that all.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:41 am
by Orient_Man_And_Boy
banqo wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:36 am
Orient_Man_And_Boy wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:43 pm SC holder and I’ll be there; 70 mile round trip won’t deter me.
70 miles is that all.
Yes, because I drive very fast ….

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:19 am
by timothy
banqo wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:56 pm
timothy wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 7:55 am
banqo wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:01 pm I can't be bothered with paying £25 train fare and £15 to get in and the weather forecast is crap.
Banqo, if you come to the game on Saturday I'll buy you a ticket for
the Final if we get there.
Timmo, as tempting as that sounds 🤯, I'll give it a miss and see you against Oxford!!
Ok, see you on the 11th

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:21 am
by bobo66
As well as Wellens has done for the club in the league he doesn't seem interested in cup matches. I'm not expecting him to play our strongest team, so don't know what to expect. It's a shame really because if we finish mid-table, which I'm hoping this season a cup run would have been fun.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:57 am
by timothy
bobo66 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:21 am As well as Wellens has done for the club in the league he doesn't seem interested in cup matches. I'm not expecting him to play our strongest team, so don't know what to expect. It's a shame really because if we finish mid-table, which I'm hoping this season a cup run would have been fun.
Agree but I hope that with the money on offer (£41,000 to the winners) we may take it seriously.
We could do with the cash. We have a decent enough sized squad , even with a few injuries, to put
out a good side.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:05 pm
by banqo
timothy wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:57 am
bobo66 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:21 am As well as Wellens has done for the club in the league he doesn't seem interested in cup matches. I'm not expecting him to play our strongest team, so don't know what to expect. It's a shame really because if we finish mid-table, which I'm hoping this season a cup run would have been fun.
Agree but I hope that with the money on offer (£41,000 to the winners) we may take it seriously.
We could do with the cash. We have a decent enough sized squad , even with a few injuries, to put
out a good side.
After listening to the Q&A the other day, I think Travis will be very peed off if we don't get through.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:25 pm
by timothy
banqo wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:05 pm
timothy wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:57 am
bobo66 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:21 am As well as Wellens has done for the club in the league he doesn't seem interested in cup matches. I'm not expecting him to play our strongest team, so don't know what to expect. It's a shame really because if we finish mid-table, which I'm hoping this season a cup run would have been fun.
Agree but I hope that with the money on offer (£41,000 to the winners) we may take it seriously.
We could do with the cash. We have a decent enough sized squad , even with a few injuries, to put
out a good side.
After listening to the Q&A the other day, I think Travis will be very peed off if we don't get through.
He's already peed off because your'e not coming! Change your mind and I'll buy you a pint.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:56 pm
by banqo
timothy wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:25 pm
banqo wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:05 pm
timothy wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:57 am

Agree but I hope that with the money on offer (£41,000 to the winners) we may take it seriously.
We could do with the cash. We have a decent enough sized squad , even with a few injuries, to put
out a good side.
After listening to the Q&A the other day, I think Travis will be very peed off if we don't get through.
He's already peed off because your'e not coming! Change your mind and I'll buy you a pint.
No Timothy, my minds made up!! You can buy me a pint anytime though 😉

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:56 am
by soloman
bobo66 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:21 am As well as Wellens has done for the club in the league he doesn't seem interested in cup matches. I'm not expecting him to play our strongest team, so don't know what to expect. It's a shame really because if we finish mid-table, which I'm hoping this season a cup run would have been fun.
I'm hoping for one or two surprise appearances from little known players happen and they do well . Also hope players in the squad who haven't looked good when they did play give it a good go .

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:13 pm
by banqo
banqo wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 5:32 pm If we get over 4000 on Saturday I'll be surprised. PS I won't be there!!
Wasn't too far out!

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:27 pm
by Petrov788
it's 23:27 and there's still no highlights of todays game to be found anywhere. What's that about?

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:47 pm
by Eggski
Out in 2nd round hopefully, we are not going to win it . Let's mash up the play offs and go up. Yes I was at the semi final in 1978 . 🥳

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:45 am
by Exiled O
The FA Cup has been devalued and the FA have been complicit in this. All the changes to the competition have been introduced to benefit the top clubs at the expense of everyone else. They've even allowed to final itself to be devalued. The top clubs complain about fixture congestion but would have been quite happy to start a Super league. They should re-introduce endless replays and have the final as the last game of the season at 3pm on a Saturday. Third round day has managed to maintain its' appeal in my view and we'd get a bumper crowd if we drew a top side. Some of the best Orient games I've ever seen have been FA Cup games. Home v West Ham in the 80's was a corker. Beating Fulham at Craven Cottage was a bit special too. Somehow I managed to miss us beating West Brom in 84/85 but managed to get to 90% of the other games that season when we were by and large pretty awful.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:49 am
by one o in huntingdon
The decline started when Man Utd were allowed to not enter and compete in some money spinner BS event in South America.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:59 am
by EliotNes
We are ball No. 6 in this afternoons draw live on ITV at 2.30. Mrs NES and I be watching. The live draw still has some magic to it.

Great game yesterday apart from our usual mad 10 mins where we switched off, but I'm getting used to that almost every game. Great that Drinan finally got his name on the score sheet. Sympathy to the Carlisle player stretched off.

COYOs

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:01 am
by spen666
Exiled O wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:45 am The FA Cup has been devalued and the FA have been complicit in this. All the changes to the competition have been introduced to benefit the top clubs at the expense of everyone else. They've even allowed to final itself to be devalued. The top clubs complain about fixture congestion but would have been quite happy to start a Super league. .. mm
The fans are also to blame. Look at post from Eggski for a fan who doesn't value the cup

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:21 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Part of it is the broadcasters (led by money). I find a lot of magic in the fa cup and get excited if Harrogate vs Liverpool is on. But wait until the 3rd round…they will show whoever Man Utd get. Utd v sheff utd zzz. Then they will have a middling all prem tie, villa v Brighton zzz and then probably whoever Leeds gets Leeds vs Walsall zzz. I’d find it loads more exciting to watch a league one team away at some park team.

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:39 am
by Mistadobalina
One way they could revitalise the early rounds would be for League clubs to experiment with making attendance free, perhaps in a targeted way at people who don't normally go to games. Would make cup games distinctive and give an opportunity to bring in a different crowd.

Sounds a bit pie in the sky but Dusseldorf in Germany are doing this for all games, and seeing as we heavily discounted tickets yesterday anyway and may not even mean much of an income difference assuming you'd get 8k+ if free (could work out some kind of split with the away club for the money made from spend inside the ground).

Re: The ‘Magic’ of the FA Cup

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:52 am
by CEB
The problem with free stuff is it often has the unintended effect of making it easy to perceive the free thing as worthless