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Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:37 pm
by Admin
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:07 pm
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:00 pm
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:32 pm
In that era Albert Pierrepoint was lurking
And he obviously didn't do much to put them off carrying on as they did, did he?
. Well he executed about 600 so they were put off
You do understand they weren't executed for just thinking about murdering someone?
Idiot.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:20 pm
by Max B Gold
On another crime related matter with an excessive punishment.
I was listening to a programme on R4 in the car whilst Mrs Gold was in the dentists about train fare evasion in Germany.
Apparently the train company not only has the power to levy 60 Euro penalty fines on evaders but can also prosecute them too.
There are 7,000 people in jail for either evasion or not paying the penalty fine. Looks like it's not much of a deterrent.
The good news is that there's a guy who has crowd funded 800,000 Euro and goes around paying the fines and getting inmates released from prison.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:43 pm
by CEB
I drew a comic about Albert Pierrepoint when I was at university. We all got given a name out of a hat we had to write and draw a graphic short story about in about two weeks. I got pierrepoint.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:25 pm
by Proposition Joe
Was your story about how he deterred people from committing knife crime in Glasgow by first letting them carry out said offences?
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:31 pm
by Max B Gold
CEB wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:43 pm
I drew a comic about Albert Pierrepoint when I was at university. We all got given a name out of a hat we had to write and draw a graphic short story about in about two weeks. I got pierrepoint.
Two weeks you say. They weren't hanging about.
I once read a book about Pierrepoint. He didn't seem too bothered about murdering people and approached his goulish work with a great sense of professional pride.
Always weighing and calculating so that the counterweight was set correctly to ensure that when the condemned person dropped, it didn't pull his head off. He was very worried about that.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:42 pm
by Proposition Joe
A man who takes pride in his work, what's to mock about that? Today's Gen Zers could learn something.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:52 pm
by Max B Gold
Looks like his life's work, that he took so much pride in, turned out to be a complete waste of time.
"It is said to be a deterrent. I cannot agree....I do not now believe that any one of the hundreds of executions I carried out has in any way acted as a deterrent against future murder. Capital punishment, in my view, achieved nothing except revenge."
Albert Pierrepoint
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:03 pm
by CEB
Argh the files are too big to post on here. Any ideas where I can host it like the old days?
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:04 pm
by Friend or fart
PJ:- Friend or faux wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:41 pm
When the alleged offender is found guilty & incarcerated & he is gonna have great time won't he? He is obviously well hard if he he can kill a little girl with a foot long knife. So other offenders will want to keep well away from such an 'ard nut.
What does this nonsense even mean?
PJ :- This is called irony :- As you probably don't know how to use a dictionary, here is the definition for you: the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect:
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:11 pm
by Max B Gold
CEB wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:03 pm
Argh the files are too big to post on here. Any ideas where I can host it like the old days?
Dreamweavers the one.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:13 pm
by Max B Gold
Friend or faux wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:04 pm
PJ:- Friend or faux wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:41 pm
When the alleged offender is found guilty & incarcerated & he is gonna have great time won't he? He is obviously well hard if he he can kill a little girl with a foot long knife. So other offenders will want to keep well away from such an 'ard nut.
What does this nonsense even mean?
PJ :- This is called irony :- As you probably don't know how to use a dictionary, here is the definition for you: the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect:
I'm a bit like PJ on this. I just thought you were either thick or suffering from severe learning difficulties.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:15 pm
by Tuffers#2
Friend or faux wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:04 pm
PJ:- Friend or faux wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:41 pm
When the alleged offender is found guilty & incarcerated & he is gonna have great time won't he? He is obviously well hard if he he can kill a little girl with a foot long knife. So other offenders will want to keep well away from such an 'ard nut.
What does this nonsense even mean?
PJ :- This is called irony :- As you probably don't know how to use a dictionary, here is the definition for you: the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect:
So you're trying to make light of a chids murder ? Strange.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:25 pm
by faith1234
Get the sas to protect the streets shoot on site no f*cking about
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:25 pm
by Proposition Joe
faith1234 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:25 pm
Get the sas to protect the streets shoot on site no f*cking about
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:23 pm
by Admin
faith1234 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:25 pm
Get the sas to protect the streets shoot on site no f*cking about
That's everyone in the construction sector f*cked.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:34 pm
by Long slender neck
CEB wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:03 pm
Argh the files are too big to post on here. Any ideas where I can host it like the old days?
Try imgur.com
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:56 pm
by Dunners
I saw the Pierrepoint strip on his Facebook. It's decent.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:48 pm
by Adz
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:14 am
Murder rate in the UK is way down on its early 2000s peak and seems to be back to where we were in the early 90s.
That's interesting, I don't remember murder rates being such a big thing when I last lived in the UK in the early 2000's, nor knife crime. Have you got a link to some statistics over the years of rates and causes?
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:24 am
by ChorizO
Friend or faux wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:41 pm
When the alleged offender is found guilty & incarcerated & he is gonna have great time won't he? He is obviously well hard if he he can kill a little girl with a foot long knife. So other offenders will want to keep well away from such an 'ard nut.
Stay off the drink please.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:14 am
by Mistadobalina
Adz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:48 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:14 am
Murder rate in the UK is way down on its early 2000s peak and seems to be back to where we were in the early 90s.
That's interesting, I don't remember murder rates being such a big thing when I last lived in the UK in the early 2000's, nor knife crime. Have you got a link to some statistics over the years of rates and causes?
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/G ... icide-rate
I was at school at that time so I was probably more of aware of the problem than I would be now, but gangs and knife crime in London were terrible at that time. Places like Hackney were pretty much no go areas after dark.
Think I'm right in saying that violent crime and murder rates in developed countries are in general on the decline, but because of the way we consume news content has changed, people think the opposite.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:48 am
by Daily Express bot
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:14 am
Adz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:48 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:14 am
Murder rate in the UK is way down on its early 2000s peak and seems to be back to where we were in the early 90s.
That's interesting, I don't remember murder rates being such a big thing when I last lived in the UK in the early 2000's, nor knife crime. Have you got a link to some statistics over the years of rates and causes?
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/G ... icide-rate
I was at school at that time so I was probably more of aware of the problem than I would be now, but gangs and knife crime in London were terrible at that time. Places like Hackney were pretty much no go areas after dark.
Think I'm right in saying that violent crime and murder rates in developed countries are in general on the decline, but because of the way we consume news content has changed, people think the opposite.
The sight of all the London victims this year so far, portrait photos displayed like a Year Book in some newspapers today make grim viewing. Probably all under 20 years old.
This of course the ones fatally wounded. Additionally to these will be the seriously wounded and those with lesser injury. Some of these can be life changing. Deep scars, exploratory operation disfigurement and severed tendons and and nerves. It is an issue that needs to be addressed quickly to avoid lifetime misery to families.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:54 am
by CEB
It’s kind of bizarre that this case is framed as being wholly about the weapon used, and bracketed in “knife crime” rather than seen in context as being about male rage at being told “no” by a young girl
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:07 pm
by Mistadobalina
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:48 am
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:14 am
Adz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:48 pm
That's interesting, I don't remember murder rates being such a big thing when I last lived in the UK in the early 2000's, nor knife crime. Have you got a link to some statistics over the years of rates and causes?
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/G ... icide-rate
I was at school at that time so I was probably more of aware of the problem than I would be now, but gangs and knife crime in London were terrible at that time. Places like Hackney were pretty much no go areas after dark.
Think I'm right in saying that violent crime and murder rates in developed countries are in general on the decline, but because of the way we consume news content has changed, people think the opposite.
The sight of all the London victims this year so far, portrait photos displayed like a Year Book in some newspapers today make grim viewing. Probably all under 20 years old.
This of course the ones fatally wounded. Additionally to these will be the seriously wounded and those with lesser injury. Some of these can be life changing. Deep scars, exploratory operation disfigurement and severed tendons and and nerves. It is an issue that needs to be addressed quickly to avoid lifetime misery to families.
As long as a massive wedge of voters think it's a case of throwing the book at these kids as if the prospect of a life in jail, instead of 'only' 20 years, would make their rational brain kick in, then we aren't going to make much progress. Broken people aren't born that way and there's a depressing lack of discussion about how a teenager ends up so nihilistic that they think human life - both their own and their victims- is basically worthless.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:08 pm
by Friend or fart
I hope all you punters on here, with a drug habit, realise that you to a certain extent fuel all this violence between the youngsters ( although the most recent case is something else ). Two in the statistics for teenagers murdered, were shot dead.
Re: What is the answer to this knife crime misery?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:24 pm
by CEB
Friend or faux wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:08 pm
I hope all you punters on here, with a drug habit, realise that you to a certain extent fuel all this violence between the youngsters ( although the most recent case is something else ). Two in the statistics for teenagers murdered, were shot dead.
Those of you who take drugs; YOU did this. Well, not *this*, but something else. Also two teenagers were shot, I’ll include that, too.