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Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:43 am**

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:55 am
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:25 pm
North Stand Dave wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:16 pm Stan1972 that's all he knows Negativity, he wouldn't know anything positive if it hit him on the head.
Drinks half empty pints aswell under a black cloud.
If he was in an Airplane film he'd be that Ted Straker guy.
Get the matches out.
He's not alone is he Monkey Boy, CCH and a few others are peddling this crap, it's a sort of desperate way to get attention.
It’s a good job I have you on foe now, the crap that comes out of you is unbelievable, if you bother to read my post(which you obviously haven’t properly) you will see I said he will be gone by the end of the season through his own choice. Get your facts right before you go slagging other people off and that goes for your other gang members

So by Gang members you mean the majority on this board who chose not to accept your little cliques negative ramblings that you often choose to post as “fact” . Why not try and be a bit more positive rather than wish Wellens out of a job - your alias is rather tedious and boring.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:08 am**

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:43 am
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:55 am
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:25 pm

He's not alone is he Monkey Boy, CCH and a few others are peddling this crap, it's a sort of desperate way to get attention.
It’s a good job I have you on foe now, the crap that comes out of you is unbelievable, if you bother to read my post(which you obviously haven’t properly) you will see I said he will be gone by the end of the season through his own choice. Get your facts right before you go slagging other people off and that goes for your other gang members
So by Gang members you mean the majority on this board who chose not to accept your little cliques negative ramblings that you often choose to post as “fact” . If you really are an Os fan (which I doubt) why not try and be a bit more positive rather than wish Wellens out of a job - your alias is rather tedious and boring.

Fancied a laugh so I read your comment, see if you can comprehend this, I’ve been an O’S supporter probably longer than you were probably thought of. You and your little gang members sit like vultures at your key boards waiting to jump on the least truthful and thoughtful things some say about the club. Personally I’ve said good and truthful things imo and that’s what they are,my opinions just as yours are. Now if you can tell me if any thing I say next is wrong then I’ll hold my hands up which is more than you or the other bash street gang on here would do. Currently we are in the bottom 4. We have let in far more goals than we have scored. We have a very leaky defence,we dont possess a decent forward who looks like scoring, we pick up more cards than a poker game we have just lost to Stevenage who by even your so called knowledge of football we should be beating with our so called resources be thrashing week in week out,who incidentally we couldn’t beat last season as well. We couldn’t manage to beat a league two side last night with a full strength side. Now if you can tell me as a ST holder why I should be jumping for joy,then I’ll hold my hands up like I said. But I’m willing to bet you don’t do likewise

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:52 am**

The decline in our fortunes has been very steep. Looking in as fans, how can anyone not be surprised and worried! RW has lots of goodwill from last season but he needs to steady the team and results soon, or else we may well be playing in L2 next season. ML is also in focus after a summer of recruitment

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:06 am**

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:08 am
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:43 am
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:55 am

It’s a good job I have you on foe now, the crap that comes out of you is unbelievable, if you bother to read my post(which you obviously haven’t properly) you will see I said he will be gone by the end of the season through his own choice. Get your facts right before you go slagging other people off and that goes for your other gang members
So by Gang members you mean the majority on this board who chose not to accept your little cliques negative ramblings that you often choose to post as “fact” . If you really are an Os fan (which I doubt) why not try and be a bit more positive rather than wish Wellens out of a job - your alias is rather tedious and boring.

Fancied a laugh so I read your comment, see if you can comprehend this, I’ve been an O’S supporter probably longer than you were probably thought of. You and your little gang members sit like vultures at your key boards waiting to jump on the least truthful and thoughtful things some say about the club. Personally I’ve said good and truthful things imo and that’s what they are,my opinions just as yours are. Now if you can tell me if any thing I say next is wrong then I’ll hold my hands up which is more than you or the other bash street gang on here would do. Currently we are in the bottom 4. We have let in far more goals than we have scored. We have a very leaky defence,we dont possess a decent forward who looks like scoring, we pick up more cards than a poker game we have just lost to Stevenage who by even your so called knowledge of football we should be beating with our so called resources be thrashing week in week out,who incidentally we couldn’t beat last season as well. We couldn’t manage to beat a league two side last night with a full strength side. Now if you can tell me as a ST holder why I should be jumping for joy,then I’ll hold my hands up like I said. But I’m willing to bet you don’t do likewise

Your really ranting now - I have been a season ticket holder for 44 years. Where were you last year when we were doing well hardly a peep from you except the odd post suggesting we were going to blow it. Now we are finding our feet in a higher league you are all over what we should be doing to rectify things and sacking off Wellens. You think last night was a full strength side with Eight changes?
Since when did Cooper (debut) Pegram and Sanders feature in our full strength starting eleven.

Be nice to have a prolific striker but we haven’t and RW is working with what we have the squad still a bit unbalanced but we’ve spent our budget it is what it is. Anyway try not to get too worked up not good for your blood pressure just try not to post your negative opinions as fact and I will ignore you and you can do the same.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:10 am**

Reflecto wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:52 am The decline in our fortunes has been very steep. Looking in as fans, how can anyone not be surprised and worried! RW has lots of goodwill from last season but he needs to steady the team and results soon, or else we may well be playing in L2 next season. ML is also in focus after a summer of recruitment

You have to give the club some slack we have recruited well but the amount of injuries and illness has been unprecedented losing two forwards long term the week before the season kicks off would test any club. Once we have a settled side things will pick up keep the faith.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:50 am**

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:06 am
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:08 am
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:43 am

So by Gang members you mean the majority on this board who chose not to accept your little cliques negative ramblings that you often choose to post as “fact” . If you really are an Os fan (which I doubt) why not try and be a bit more positive rather than wish Wellens out of a job - your alias is rather tedious and boring.

Fancied a laugh so I read your comment, see if you can comprehend this, I’ve been an O’S supporter probably longer than you were probably thought of. You and your little gang members sit like vultures at your key boards waiting to jump on the least truthful and thoughtful things some say about the club. Personally I’ve said good and truthful things imo and that’s what they are,my opinions just as yours are. Now if you can tell me if any thing I say next is wrong then I’ll hold my hands up which is more than you or the other bash street gang on here would do. Currently we are in the bottom 4. We have let in far more goals than we have scored. We have a very leaky defence,we dont possess a decent forward who looks like scoring, we pick up more cards than a poker game we have just lost to Stevenage who by even your so called knowledge of football we should be beating with our so called resources be thrashing week in week out,who incidentally we couldn’t beat last season as well. We couldn’t manage to beat a league two side last night with a full strength side. Now if you can tell me as a ST holder why I should be jumping for joy,then I’ll hold my hands up like I said. But I’m willing to bet you don’t do likewise
Your really ranting now - I have been a season ticket holder for 44 years. Where were you last year when we were doing well hardly a peep from you except the odd post suggesting we were going to blow it. Now we are finding our feet in a higher league you are all over what we should be doing to rectify things and sacking off Wellens. You think last night was a full strength side with Eight changes?
Since when did Cooper (debut) Pegram and Sanders feature in our full strength starting eleven.

Be nice to have a prolific striker but we haven’t and RW is working with what we have the squad still a bit unbalanced but we’ve spent our budget it is what it is. Anyway try not to get too worked up not good for your blood pressure just try not to post your negative opinions as fact and I will ignore you and you can do the same.

Already done you

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:06 pm**

I have never understood this "well I've been a season ticket holder for 30/40/50/112 years" willy-waving schtick.

As if in some way, being old, and being born ages and ages ago requires some sort of congratulatory acknowledgement, and validates the opinion of the person doing the willy-waving.

It's pretty much near irrelevant.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:26 pm**

Type high wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:02 am
The Reverend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:52 pm Can anyone else see this happening?

Poor start to the season is edging closer to a spiral of losses and the drain on morale that comes with it.

Discipline is clearly an issue both on the pitch and on the sidelines. With senior pros being dropped then bought back into the side then possibly dropped again (I’m looking at you Mr Beckles) there’s danger of losing the dressing room as well.

It’s a recipe for disaster if things don’t change soon.

For clarity, I’m not saying that I want this to happen (nor do thank that it would necessarily be a wise thing) but I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility.

Things change quickly in football.
I was thinking more about you gone by Christmas, that would be a far better result

I assume this thread is a jest? Should not tempt fate? If any him of a campaign for him to go he may walk. Be careful what you wish for I say. We lose him we could go into that sinking spiral downwards mentally and in the league back where we came from. We need to regroup and take a hard look at ourselves. I think with our current squad and limitations we should play safe and within our capabilities. Playing safe is paramount, play a tight game, play football without giving the ball away . We need ultimately to be very disciplined and that should come from RW for a start. We are not going to win the league , at best a look in for play offs and we need to realise this now. Make every game count from this moment.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:34 pm**

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:08 am
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:43 am
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:55 am

It’s a good job I have you on foe now, the crap that comes out of you is unbelievable, if you bother to read my post(which you obviously haven’t properly) you will see I said he will be gone by the end of the season through his own choice. Get your facts right before you go slagging other people off and that goes for your other gang members
So by Gang members you mean the majority on this board who chose not to accept your little cliques negative ramblings that you often choose to post as “fact” . If you really are an Os fan (which I doubt) why not try and be a bit more positive rather than wish Wellens out of a job - your alias is rather tedious and boring.
Fancied a laugh so I read your comment, see if you can comprehend this, I’ve been an O’S supporter probably longer than you were probably thought of. You and your little gang members sit like vultures at your key boards waiting to jump on the least truthful and thoughtful things some say about the club. Personally I’ve said good and truthful things imo and that’s what they are,my opinions just as yours are. Now if you can tell me if any thing I say next is wrong then I’ll hold my hands up which is more than you or the other bash street gang on here would do. Currently we are in the bottom 4. We have let in far more goals than we have scored. We have a very leaky defence,we dont possess a decent forward who looks like scoring, we pick up more cards than a poker game we have just lost to Stevenage who by even your so called knowledge of football we should be beating with our so called resources be thrashing week in week out,who incidentally we couldn’t beat last season as well. We couldn’t manage to beat a league two side last night with a full strength side. Now if you can tell me as a ST holder why I should be jumping for joy,then I’ll hold my hands up like I said. But I’m willing to bet you don’t do likewise

"Currently we are in the bottom 4". You sure about that ?

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:41 pm**

Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:06 pm I have never understood this "well I've been a season ticket holder for 30/40/50/112 years" willy-waving schtick.

As if in some way, being old, and being born ages and ages ago requires some sort of congratulatory acknowledgement, and validates the opinion of the person doing the willy-waving.

It's pretty much near irrelevant.

It was in response to being told I wasn't around as long as another poster I'm proud to have supported this club for 55 years - I think what it confirms is that a lot of people have seen this all before, you seem to have a very low opinion of older people just remember you'll be there one day.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:31 pm**

Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:34 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:08 am
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:43 am

So by Gang members you mean the majority on this board who chose not to accept your little cliques negative ramblings that you often choose to post as “fact” . If you really are an Os fan (which I doubt) why not try and be a bit more positive rather than wish Wellens out of a job - your alias is rather tedious and boring.
Fancied a laugh so I read your comment, see if you can comprehend this, I’ve been an O’S supporter probably longer than you were probably thought of. You and your little gang members sit like vultures at your key boards waiting to jump on the least truthful and thoughtful things some say about the club. Personally I’ve said good and truthful things imo and that’s what they are,my opinions just as yours are. Now if you can tell me if any thing I say next is wrong then I’ll hold my hands up which is more than you or the other bash street gang on here would do. Currently we are in the bottom 4. We have let in far more goals than we have scored. We have a very leaky defence,we dont possess a decent forward who looks like scoring, we pick up more cards than a poker game we have just lost to Stevenage who by even your so called knowledge of football we should be beating with our so called resources be thrashing week in week out,who incidentally we couldn’t beat last season as well. We couldn’t manage to beat a league two side last night with a full strength side. Now if you can tell me as a ST holder why I should be jumping for joy,then I’ll hold my hands up like I said. But I’m willing to bet you don’t do likewise
"Currently we are in the bottom 4". You sure about that ?

I’m willing to bet we will be by Saturday unfortunately

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:37 pm**

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:31 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:34 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:08 am

Fancied a laugh so I read your comment, see if you can comprehend this, I’ve been an O’S supporter probably longer than you were probably thought of. You and your little gang members sit like vultures at your key boards waiting to jump on the least truthful and thoughtful things some say about the club. Personally I’ve said good and truthful things imo and that’s what they are,my opinions just as yours are. Now if you can tell me if any thing I say next is wrong then I’ll hold my hands up which is more than you or the other bash street gang on here would do. Currently we are in the bottom 4. We have let in far more goals than we have scored. We have a very leaky defence,we dont possess a decent forward who looks like scoring, we pick up more cards than a poker game we have just lost to Stevenage who by even your so called knowledge of football we should be beating with our so called resources be thrashing week in week out,who incidentally we couldn’t beat last season as well. We couldn’t manage to beat a league two side last night with a full strength side. Now if you can tell me as a ST holder why I should be jumping for joy,then I’ll hold my hands up like I said. But I’m willing to bet you don’t do likewise
"Currently we are in the bottom 4". You sure about that ?
I’m willing to bet we will be by Saturday unfortunately

MB You said you'd hold your hands up if you said something wrong. Poor form geezer.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:45 pm**

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:41 pm
Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:06 pm I have never understood this "well I've been a season ticket holder for 30/40/50/112 years" willy-waving schtick.

As if in some way, being old, and being born ages and ages ago requires some sort of congratulatory acknowledgement, and validates the opinion of the person doing the willy-waving.

It's pretty much near irrelevant.
It was in response to being told I wasn't around as long as another poster I'm proud to have supported this club for 55 years - I think what it confirms is that a lot of people have seen this all before, you seem to have a very low opinion of older people just remember you'll be there one day.

I wasn't popping at your personally fella, please be assured- I'd just seen this a couple of times on this thread, and it seems to be a message board 'go-to' for the older generation; as if being old = being right.

I'm far from young myself (53), and have followed the club for 40 years, but I would not drop that into a conversation in the hope that those facts in some way give my opinion further weight or validation.
In fact, if longevity (of support) forms a basis of any opinion or argument I might have, then I've probably got a poor argument.

Notwithstanding - you are clearly a very loyal fan and I loved how you put you were proud to support the club.

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:06 pm**

Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:37 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:31 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:34 pm

"Currently we are in the bottom 4". You sure about that ?
I’m willing to bet we will be by Saturday unfortunately
MB You said you'd hold your hands up if you said something wrong. Poor form geezer.

Yes you are right about the bottom 4 and will hold my hands up about that just assumed they were just didn’t look but I’m not wrong about the rest. Don’t think the bash street gang would have the gonads to do the though

Posted: **Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:27 pm**

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:06 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:37 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:31 pm

I’m willing to bet we will be by Saturday unfortunately
MB You said you'd hold your hands up if you said something wrong. Poor form geezer.
Yes you are right about the bottom 4 and will hold my hands up about that just assumed they were just didn’t look but I’m not wrong about the rest. Don’t think the bash street gang would have the gonads to do the though

As my old dad used to say worry what you do & not what others do.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:03 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:46 pm TBF our recruitment looks good . Only Pigott looks suspect . He's supposed to be our number 9 but has had no impact on any game I've seen him play .

Bit unfair on Pigott imho. Not fully fit when he joined according to RW and has been played somewhat out of position in a team that’s struggling with injuries and lack of confidence. Too early to judge him yet I think.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:43 pm**

I’m not naive enough to think that the board won’t act if things don’t improve, certainly by the New Year. Wellens knows this too, of course.

I’m fairly sure that we will improve and do ok this season, but I’m also more sure that the board are more ruthless than many think.

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:06 pm**

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:31 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:34 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:08 am

Fancied a laugh so I read your comment, see if you can comprehend this, I’ve been an O’S supporter probably longer than you were probably thought of. You and your little gang members sit like vultures at your key boards waiting to jump on the least truthful and thoughtful things some say about the club. Personally I’ve said good and truthful things imo and that’s what they are,my opinions just as yours are. Now if you can tell me if any thing I say next is wrong then I’ll hold my hands up which is more than you or the other bash street gang on here would do. Currently we are in the bottom 4. We have let in far more goals than we have scored. We have a very leaky defence,we dont possess a decent forward who looks like scoring, we pick up more cards than a poker game we have just lost to Stevenage who by even your so called knowledge of football we should be beating with our so called resources be thrashing week in week out,who incidentally we couldn’t beat last season as well. We couldn’t manage to beat a league two side last night with a full strength side. Now if you can tell me as a ST holder why I should be jumping for joy,then I’ll hold my hands up like I said. But I’m willing to bet you don’t do likewise
"Currently we are in the bottom 4". You sure about that ?
I’m willing to bet we will be by Saturday unfortunately

Hope it wasnt more than a tenner lad

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:45 pm**

Stowaway wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:43 pm I’m not naive enough to think that the board won’t act if things don’t improve

I know the MB is a pretty big deal still but I think that's overplaying our hand somewhat.

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:08 pm**

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:45 pm
Stowaway wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:43 pm I’m not naive enough to think that the board won’t act if things don’t improve
I know the MB is a pretty big deal still but I think that's overplaying our hand somewhat.

I wonder if Nigel reads as a registered user or lurks as an anon

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:18 pm**

Joe315 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:06 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:31 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:34 pm

"Currently we are in the bottom 4". You sure about that ?
I’m willing to bet we will be by Saturday unfortunately
Hope it wasnt more than a tenner lad

Let’s hope it was what a loser.

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:43 pm**

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:31 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:34 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:08 am

Fancied a laugh so I read your comment, see if you can comprehend this, I’ve been an O’S supporter probably longer than you were probably thought of. You and your little gang members sit like vultures at your key boards waiting to jump on the least truthful and thoughtful things some say about the club. Personally I’ve said good and truthful things imo and that’s what they are,my opinions just as yours are. Now if you can tell me if any thing I say next is wrong then I’ll hold my hands up which is more than you or the other bash street gang on here would do. Currently we are in the bottom 4. We have let in far more goals than we have scored. We have a very leaky defence,we dont possess a decent forward who looks like scoring, we pick up more cards than a poker game we have just lost to Stevenage who by even your so called knowledge of football we should be beating with our so called resources be thrashing week in week out,who incidentally we couldn’t beat last season as well. We couldn’t manage to beat a league two side last night with a full strength side. Now if you can tell me as a ST holder why I should be jumping for joy,then I’ll hold my hands up like I said. But I’m willing to bet you don’t do likewise
"Currently we are in the bottom 4". You sure about that ?
I’m willing to bet we will be by Saturday unfortunately

Should change your name to Donkey Boy

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:11 pm**

Yeh stupid post

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:19 pm**

I’d like to think that Wellens and the boys saw this thread and it gave the moment this afternoon to answer the original question, with the answer looking like a resounding NO!

I’m pleased.

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:39 pm**

The Reverend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:19 pm I’d like to think that Wellens and the boys saw this thread and it gave the moment this afternoon to answer the original question, with the answer looking like a resounding NO!

I’m pleased.

A Question asked for the 2nd time this season. No originality.

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