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Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:33 pm
by Max B Gold
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:13 am
Feel for Maguire as he's done nothing to deserve the level of flack that he gets, but our starting centre back shouldn't be a guy who's 5th choice at any club. Tomori, Guehi, Dunk, Colwill and White are all clearly better options.
There was a good article in the guardian the other day about how playing Maguire forces the England midfield to not press well because the defence has to play quite low to account for Maguire's lack of pace and mobility. I get the idea that he's good in the air and a set piece threat but we have the players to dominate games now and shouldn't be playing to accommodate the weaknesses of a solid but limited defender.
Say what youse like about Maguire but he took his goal well last night.
Bellingham was excellent. Poise, balance, intelligence , and passing ability he's got it all reminds me of a young David Turnbull.
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:12 pm
by Monkey Boy
Got me thinking (yeah I know it’s dangerous) but on reflection watching England last night was a pleasure for a change. If that had been Brazil,Spain,Germany or any other country for that matter we would be raving about them. The one touch passing at times was excellent and individual control was excellent as well. Do people on here think maybe we react to the O’s games a little to early after a game. OK we all get carried away in the heat of the moment but leaving it a few hours or a day after gives you time to think about a game?
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:16 pm
by CEB
England have got a tournament win in them, I think
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:27 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Adz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:06 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:51 pm
He’s very good but he’s not even the best midfielder at Real
Who's better?
Valverde, Kroos and Modric. You can make cases for Tchouameni and Camavinga being equal, if not better, too.
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:28 pm
by LittleMate
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:33 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:13 am
Feel for Maguire as he's done nothing to deserve the level of flack that he gets, but our starting centre back shouldn't be a guy who's 5th choice at any club. Tomori, Guehi, Dunk, Colwill and White are all clearly better options.
There was a good article in the guardian the other day about how playing Maguire forces the England midfield to not press well because the defence has to play quite low to account for Maguire's lack of pace and mobility. I get the idea that he's good in the air and a set piece threat but we have the players to dominate games now and shouldn't be playing to accommodate the weaknesses of a solid but limited defender.
Say what youse like about Maguire buy he took his goal well last night.
Bellingham was excellent. Poise, balance, intelligence , and passing ability he's got it all reminds me of a young David Turnbull.
But he's no Omar Beckles who's regularly on the score sheet.
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:37 pm
by Scuba Diver
Bellingham was near to unplayable last night, but, (and no disrespect to Scotland - I wish we had the kind of loud and welcome everywhere support that England Don't have) we were playing Scotland, who had League Two players playing for them, albeit they've been on great form.
But you'd have to say, if he's like this at 20, and continues to develop, what will he be like at 24/5...
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:15 am
by Adz
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:27 pm
Adz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:06 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:51 pm
He’s very good but he’s not even the best midfielder at Real
Who's better?
Valverde, Kroos and Modric. You can make cases for Tchouameni and Camavinga being equal, if not better, too.
Wow, how comes they've been struggling so much to win anything in the last few years?
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 8:01 am
by Chief crazy horse
I just hope we don't build him up too much.
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:26 pm
by EH16
The boy can play a bit.
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:59 am
by LPE
Impressive to think that, if England do well next summer he’ll likely have over 40 caps by his 21st birthday.
Only Rooney comes close to that level of experience so young. As an example, I think Michael Owen ‘only’ had 24 by that age.
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:26 pm
by Eggski
Hopefully, he can become as good as lord Cunningham. I think he will, his clued up, avoided the premier ( sh*t) and has played, and is playing in real football leagues
Re: Jude Bellingham
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:51 am
by Give it to Jabo
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:24 am
I think Graeme Souness hit the nail on the head when he said England play with the handbrake on when Southgates in charge
With the two holding midfield players…
