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Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:25 am Perhaps we could loan him back, everyone's a winner.

Why would a PL team take on a 29 year old and then do a loan back arrangement?

Will be like Eldin's career after he went to Leicester, third choice with the odd cup game here and there. Nice little earner though.

Adz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:19 am This move makes a lot more sense than qpr or charlton

More money vs loads more money, still more than we can offer in either case

Probably not a massive concern for Burnley but there is a 'homegrown' rule in the premier league that means you have to have a certain amount of players that qualify. It's why you get 40 year olds as third choice for big teams like Man City. Dunno if this could have anything to do with it.

On one hand you can't really complain when a player moves to a premier league team. He'll improve from the coaching and better players around him but can't see him playing much. If he's happy to earn the money and only player another 20 games before he retires then fair play to him.

He's definitely a loss but by no means irreplaceable.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:33 pm

Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:25 am Perhaps we could loan him back, everyone's a winner.

Why would a PL team take on a 29 year old and then do a loan back arrangement?

To give a 3rd choice keeper game time ?

OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:38 pm If he's happy to earn the money and only player another 20 games before he retires then fair play to him.

I don't think he's signing a 10 year contract.

He's right though, he'd spend his prime on the bench if he's lucky.

Only rumour at the moment but if it turns out to be true thanks vig great keeper but can’t blame him the chance to play in the premier league

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:49 pm He's right though, he'd spend his prime on the bench if he's lucky.

I think he'd sit on a park bench doing nothing for £15k a week for the next 3 years!

Whilst he may not be a prem quality keeper, I reckon his feet would put him near the top 6 for distribution. Worth having him as a #2 or #3 for that.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:49 pm He's right though, he'd spend his prime on the bench if he's lucky.

Or he could do 2 seasons there, earn a bucket full of money, learn a load from Premier league coaches, then go and play in the Championship at the age of 31 whilst still in his prime.

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:14 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:49 pm He's right though, he'd spend his prime on the bench if he's lucky.

Or he could do 2 seasons there, earn a bucket full of money, learn a load from Premier league coaches, then go and play in the Championship at the age of 31 whilst still in his prime.

and also have a perfectly realistic chance of breaking into the first team. You'd have to back yourself to do that, wouldn't you? There's no way he should be accused of a lack of ambition for going there.

Can't understand why anyone would question his choice. Like any of us would turn that sort of money down and get some financial security behind us.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/player-wanted ... ays-dream/ or maybe they are after Bart.

Admin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:41 pm Can't understand why anyone would question his choice. Like any of us would turn that sort of money down and get some financial security behind us.

I'd there not a balance to be struck, between picking up a pay cheque but not playing, and picking up a smaller pay cheque, but playing every week?
Surely footballers love playing football, it can't all be about the money!

Good luck Vigs. Came on a free and was brilliant for us hopes he enjoys a premier league sized signing on lump sum from Burnley.

OyinbO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:37 pm

and also have a perfectly realistic chance of breaking into the first team. You'd have to back yourself to do that, wouldn't you? There's no way he should be accused of a lack of ambition for going there.

Another massively valid point. Yeah, he will know his place in the pecking order but he more than likely thinks he has a shot.

OyinbO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:37 pm

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:14 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:49 pm He's right though, he'd spend his prime on the bench if he's lucky.

Or he could do 2 seasons there, earn a bucket full of money, learn a load from Premier league coaches, then go and play in the Championship at the age of 31 whilst still in his prime.

and also have a perfectly realistic chance of breaking into the first team. You'd have to back yourself to do that, wouldn't you? There's no way he should be accused of a lack of ambition for going there.

You’re seriously overestimating his ability

I`d much rather see him join Burnley than Charlton. Fantastic opportunity for him. In a strange way I hope it is true...

Getting to the point of “Who hasn’t he been linked with?”

Bergen wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:01 pm I`d much rather see him join Burnley than Charlton. Fantastic opportunity for him. In a strange way I hope it is true...

Yes, I’d rather it was Burnley as well . It would be a lot more disappointing if he moved to another League 1 club. Richie and Lingy are going to be very busy replacing all these players while adding additional players .

People saying goodbye & He hasnt signed for anyone yet .

Goalkeeper is maybe the hardest position to analyse in terms of what potential they have.
Any keeper given a chance to train alongside elite players and see how he measures up is going to go for it.
I have no idea what metric anyone is using when saying “he’s not up to playing in the premier league”, but I suspect it’s the same metric used when morons see one mistake by a prem keeper and dismiss him as championship quality.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:29 pm Good luck Vigs. Came on a free and was brilliant for us hopes he enjoys a premier league sized signing on lump sum from Burnley.

This is also something to remember, moving to another club could be rather lucrative with the sign-on fee rather than renewing at Orient

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:28 pm

OyinbO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:37 pm

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:14 pm

Or he could do 2 seasons there, earn a bucket full of money, learn a load from Premier league coaches, then go and play in the Championship at the age of 31 whilst still in his prime.

and also have a perfectly realistic chance of breaking into the first team. You'd have to back yourself to do that, wouldn't you? There's no way he should be accused of a lack of ambition for going there.

You’re seriously overestimating his ability

I don't think he has a chance either but that's not what we're saying here. It's whether he thinks he could do it and yes, it's very possible that he does.

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:55 pm

OyinbO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:37 pm

and also have a perfectly realistic chance of breaking into the first team. You'd have to back yourself to do that, wouldn't you? There's no way he should be accused of a lack of ambition for going there.

Another massively valid point. Yeah, he will know his place in the pecking order but he more than likely thinks he has a shot.

Yep. 100%.
Eldin Jakupovic was 3rd choice at Hull when they recalled him from us, wasn't he? Ok, he didn't set the world alight at Premiership level but I doubt he has done too bad out of it. Now playing in the MLS apparently.

Mind you, who was the last player to go from us to Burnley Was it George Porter? Wonder what happened to him

https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboa ... start=2150


Seems the Burnley forum is on fire at Vigs

All 3 mentions of him