Independent Leyton Orient Forum

y o y o y wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:56 am Did the original 6 year plan factor in the death of a good manager and a pandemic?
They achieved their goal despite totally unpredictable circumstances.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 10:12 am Normal negative dimshits in the opening posts on this thread, seasons not even over and still questioning T&T, FFS give it a rest and enjoy the fact we have a board of directors, management team and squad that have delivered. I suspect the new forward looking plan will be made general knowledge this summer but tbh for now I'd rather just enjoy our champion winning season and look forward to the summer as it unwinds, it's not something the fans can influence (other than buying season tickets) so I'm not worrying about it, I trust the club management team and they will tells us when its ready to share the clubs communication with supporters has been really good since Travis took over.

It's a mystery to me that even after delivering what they promised people still question T&T and expect RW to walk out on the club at the first opportunity.

The Reverend wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:59 am T&T are experienced businessmen. They’ll approach this sensibly, logically and realistically.

My hunch is that high on their current agenda is attracting some new investors. They’ve achieved their primary goal, any next steps will probably come with an increased price tag.

CEB wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 10:05 am

y o y o y wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:56 am Did the original 6 year plan factor in the death of a good manager and a pandemic?
They achieved their goal despite totally unpredictable circumstances.

There’s no way of knowing but (since this thread contains a bizarre level of negativity) I should just say that if the plan *did* factor in a pandemic and the death of a good manager, then serious questions need to be asked about the underpinning ethics of such a plan

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 10:35 am

CEB wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 10:05 am

y o y o y wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:56 am Did the original 6 year plan factor in the death of a good manager and a pandemic?
They achieved their goal despite totally unpredictable circumstances.

There’s no way of knowing but (since this thread contains a bizarre level of negativity) I should just say that if the plan *did* factor in a pandemic and the death of a good manager, then serious questions need to be asked about the underpinning ethics of such a plan

I would be more concerned about the connections of our owners to the Illuminati...but there again, if they are connected, don't bet against Orient winning the Champions League in next 10 years

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:42 am When T&T took over the club, they announced a 6 year plan to return the club to League 1. That has just been achieved, but now what?

I havent heard any more plans to say get back to the Championship etc. So does this mean, they are happy for us to just linger in league 1 ?

Im a little disappointed to be honest. I want this club back in the second tier, which is where it was, when i first supported the club, but im not sure T&T do.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:50 am

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:22 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:13 am There’s no reason why we can’t get into the championship,Wycombe and Burton played in there I do believe, plus Bournemouth are playing in the premiership with a ground that only holds 10,000. However there lies the problem. Finding, building and funding a new stadium. Brentford did so why can’t we?,but that probably is for a different discussion

Yeovil got to Championship, as did Scunthorpe - both are now struggling in 6th tier of non league football.

Burton & Wycombe got to Championship, but did not last there long.

Bournemouth (twice) and Brentford have both gone one better and got to the Premiership

The Championship is certainly achievable for Orient, but there are clear financial risks around overspending and ending up much worse off. Organic growth, rather than rapid growth is more likely to lead to sustained progress.

There will be some big clubs in League one nest season including two or more of Derby, Sheffield Wednesday and Bolton Wanderers
Portsmouth
Charlton Athletic

Realistically, staying in League 1 and consolidating the squad is probably the aim for next season

Not disagreeing with you 666,but I think your playing a dangerous game by just treading water in league one by setting your sites on a mid table position,you could end up by going back where you just come from(FGR). Surely you must aim high as you can. Yes there are financial implications in the championship but as the post says at the beginning”6 year plan” What then.? If the board put that in place then,surely they have a plan for what happens if and when they’ve achieved there goal.? Yes consolidating would be good but as I said that may be harder than it sounds

The Reverend wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:59 am T&T are experienced businessmen. They’ll approach this sensibly, logically and realistically.

My hunch is that high on their current agenda is attracting some new investors. They’ve achieved their primary goal, any next steps will probably come with an increased price tag.

LittleMate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:30 am COYOS and Poundhill - Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber!

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 12:05 pm

LittleMate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:30 am COYOS and Poundhill - Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber!

Little Mate = thick as pigshit

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:45 am I’m pretty sure Nigel said our next aim is to consolidate ourselves as a league one club. I would imagine after that the aim is to try for the championship

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 10:10 am "When T&T took over the club, they announced a 6 year plan to return the club to League 1. That has just been achieved... Im a little disappointed to be honest."

Seriously.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:12 am ...

You cannot be this much of a grouch.

The current board are extremely communicative compared to their predecessors. If you read or listened to any of the dozens of interviews various board members have given, you'd know the immediate plans are exploring solutions to the stadium capacity problem, building a new training ground, establishing ourselves in league 1 and seeking new outside investment. Those are all long term objectives.

They are also on record as saying the budget will go up by 50% next season if you're worried about the short term.

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:45 am I’m pretty sure Nigel said our next aim is to consolidate ourselves as a league one club. I would imagine after that the aim is to try for the championship

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 12:07 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 12:05 pm

LittleMate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:30 am COYOS and Poundhill - Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber!

Little Mate = thick as pigshit

You are letting yourself down with personal insults. I like your work in general.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 12:48 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 12:07 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 12:05 pm

Little Mate = thick as pigshit

You are letting yourself down with personal insults. I like your work in general.

Fair enough, I take it back......Little Mate is not as thick as pigshit

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:42 am When T&T took over the club, they announced a 6 year plan to return the club to League 1. That has just been achieved, but now what?

I havent heard any more plans to say get back to the Championship etc. So does this mean, they are happy for us to just linger in league 1 ?

Im a little disappointed to be honest. I want this club back in the second tier, which is where it was, when i first supported the club, but im not sure T&T do.