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Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:05 am
by EastDerehamO
Feels like a massive three points, often 1-0s are when going for promotion, and the other results going for us was a bonus.

Only seen the extended highlights, but liked the look of Sadlier, from Moncur’s interview they know each other well which is a bonus. It may not have been Theo’s best game from other comments in this thread, but couldn’t help notice his tracking back and covering, and Thommo looked as reliable as ever when he came on.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:27 am
by Petrov788
I think Sadlier is going to get goals from different parts of the pitch and certainly can get a cross in. Will take him a while to develop an understanding on the pitch with the other players. If you've got Vigs, Beckles, Moncur, Symth and Sadlier on the pitch playing well we should win more often than not as they are some of the best in their positions in the league.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:27 pm
by Petrov788
DrWindy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:10 pm I think we would have lost that game without Beccles at the back. He was superb today and wins so much physically. Their cf could have been a real problem but he wasn’t. Turns I thought was very tidy and dependable.

El Miz awesome. That game will give Moncs a massive boost.

Much needed win that. Need to follow it up against Crewe.
Turns wasn't just tidy and dependable, he outjumped Pell and Davidson on several occasions, which is no mean feat.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:43 pm
by DrWindy
Petrov788 wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:27 pm
DrWindy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:10 pm I think we would have lost that game without Beccles at the back. He was superb today and wins so much physically. Their cf could have been a real problem but he wasn’t. Turns I thought was very tidy and dependable.

El Miz awesome. That game will give Moncs a massive boost.

Much needed win that. Need to follow it up against Crewe.
Turns wasn't just tidy and dependable, he outjumped Pell and Davidson on several occasions, which is no mean feat.
I agree, he put in a really solid shift. I like the look of him.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:59 pm
by Omygawd
DrWindy wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:43 pm
Petrov788 wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:27 pm
DrWindy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:10 pm I think we would have lost that game without Beccles at the back. He was superb today and wins so much physically. Their cf could have been a real problem but he wasn’t. Turns I thought was very tidy and dependable.

El Miz awesome. That game will give Moncs a massive boost.

Much needed win that. Need to follow it up against Crewe.
Turns wasn't just tidy and dependable, he outjumped Pell and Davidson on several occasions, which is no mean feat.
I agree, he put in a really solid shift. I like the look of him.
For an 18 year old with barely a league game under his belt he was outstanding.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:00 pm
by E3Orient
10/10 for the fan who kicked the ball onto the South Stand roof. 11/10 for the Wimbledon player kicking the extra ball too hard, allowing it to bounce back on the pitch, comedy gold.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:40 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
E3Orient wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:00 pm 10/10 for the fan who kicked the ball onto the South Stand roof. 11/10 for the Wimbledon player kicking the extra ball too hard, allowing it to bounce back on the pitch, comedy gold.
That was a kid who stood right beside me . I wasn't looking at the time but I could hear the thumping sound from the ball as he gave it one hell of a kick . All the fans around us starting laughing and cheering . However I did see the incident where the Wimbledon player kicked the ball back off the advertising board . That gave everybody another good laugh .

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:03 pm
by banqo
E3Orient wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:00 pm 10/10 for the fan who kicked the ball onto the South Stand roof. 11/10 for the Wimbledon player kicking the extra ball too hard, allowing it to bounce back on the pitch, comedy gold.
It was an excellent ending to the game, comedy gold indeed. As the saying goes what goes around comes around!!

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:35 pm
by gshaw
banqo wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:03 pm
E3Orient wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:00 pm 10/10 for the fan who kicked the ball onto the South Stand roof. 11/10 for the Wimbledon player kicking the extra ball too hard, allowing it to bounce back on the pitch, comedy gold.
It was an excellent ending to the game, comedy gold indeed. As the saying goes what goes around comes around!!
Perfect karma :D

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:03 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
gshaw wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:35 pm
banqo wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:03 pm
E3Orient wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:00 pm 10/10 for the fan who kicked the ball onto the South Stand roof. 11/10 for the Wimbledon player kicking the extra ball too hard, allowing it to bounce back on the pitch, comedy gold.
It was an excellent ending to the game, comedy gold indeed. As the saying goes what goes around comes around!!
Perfect karma :D
I can remember one of our supporters shouted at a Wimbledon player " We can be shithouses as well ". :D

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:11 pm
by cockhat
Omygawd wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:59 pm
DrWindy wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:43 pm
Petrov788 wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:27 pm

Turns wasn't just tidy and dependable, he outjumped Pell and Davidson on several occasions, which is no mean feat.
I agree, he put in a really solid shift. I like the look of him.
For an 18 year old with barely a league game under his belt he was outstanding.
Add 2 years he’s 20.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:20 pm
by Max Fowler
I know Spen will tell me those 3 points are the same as any other 3 points but that's nonsense. That was a massive win.

As we lined up pre kick-off, I had the same sinking feeling as I had before Stevenage. They looked like a team of giants; we've lost Happe, Pratley and Drinnan and replaced with a load of 5 foot 9 short arses. But credit to everyone, we matched them physically across the pitch and Beckles singled-handedly dealt with their aerial threat.

Vigaroux 6. Some give him stick for his distribution most games and I always defend him. But it was a little off today (I understand why, he was deliberately trying to keep it wide away from their big lumps, but he hit touch too often). No saves to make, stayed big for the one real chance they had and put their guy off.

Hunt 7. Solid, reliable, boring.

Sweeney 6. Decent considering the lack of game time he's had. Better going forward than defending - half a second too slow on a couple of occassions resulting in his booking and having to be subbed for fear of a red. No issue if he starts again.

Beckles 8. Immense.

Turns 5. Out of his depth. Too short to be a centre back at any meaningful level of football.

El Miz 8. Immenser. Would love it if we can go up and keep him. MOTM.

Lydon 5. Some glimpses to suggest he's going to be alright in time but the game just passed him by. Fortunately he had El Miz to cover his arse.

Moncur 7. Much much better. Wonder goal. Out on his feet for the last 25 minutes.

Theo 7. Much much better as well after a few quieter weeks, back to his snarly, annoying self. His performance was typified by the goal line clearance after he and Moncur lost the ball at a short corner.

Kelman 5. Just not big enough or strong enough to lead the line alone.

Sadlier 6. Love the way he floats around the pitch with and without the ball. I like the look of him a lot.

Subs:

Clay 7. Perfect game for him.

Thompson 7. Superb dropping in at RB. Should start next week centrally; almost criminal that he hasn't been playing

Drinnan 7. Actually gave their pair of CBs something to think about when he came on, lovely to have him back.

James 6. Ok, got away with one howler.

Ruel 5.

(Is that right? Are we allowed 5 subs nowadays?)

Wimbledon are a half decent side, they make you work for everything, we more than matched them on that front this time out.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:18 pm
by DrWindy
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:20 pm I know Spen will tell me those 3 points are the same as any other 3 points but that's nonsense. That was a massive win.

As we lined up pre kick-off, I had the same sinking feeling as I had before Stevenage. They looked like a team of giants; we've lost Happe, Pratley and Drinnan and replaced with a load of 5 foot 9 short arses. But credit to everyone, we matched them physically across the pitch and Beckles singled-handedly dealt with their aerial threat.

Vigaroux 6. Some give him stick for his distribution most games and I always defend him. But it was a little off today (I understand why, he was deliberately trying to keep it wide away from their big lumps, but he hit touch too often). No saves to make, stayed big for the one real chance they had and put their guy off.

Hunt 7. Solid, reliable, boring.

Sweeney 6. Decent considering the lack of game time he's had. Better going forward than defending - half a second too slow on a couple of occassions resulting in his booking and having to be subbed for fear of a red. No issue if he starts again.

Beckles 8. Immense.

Turns 5. Out of his depth. Too short to be a centre back at any meaningful level of football.

El Miz 8. Immenser. Would love it if we can go up and keep him. MOTM.

Lydon 5. Some glimpses to suggest he's going to be alright in time but the game just passed him by. Fortunately he had El Miz to cover his arse.

Moncur 7. Much much better. Wonder goal. Out on his feet for the last 25 minutes.

Theo 7. Much much better as well after a few quieter weeks, back to his snarly, annoying self. His performance was typified by the goal line clearance after he and Moncur lost the ball at a short corner.

Kelman 5. Just not big enough or strong enough to lead the line alone.

Sadlier 6. Love the way he floats around the pitch with and without the ball. I like the look of him a lot.

Subs:

Clay 7. Perfect game for him.

Thompson 7. Superb dropping in at RB. Should start next week centrally; almost criminal that he hasn't been playing

Drinnan 7. Actually gave their pair of CBs something to think about when he came on, lovely to have him back.

James 6. Ok, got away with one howler.

Ruel 5.

(Is that right? Are we allowed 5 subs nowadays?)

Wimbledon are a half decent side, they make you work for everything, we more than matched them on that front this time out.
I agree with much of that, but are your scores out of 8?

Beckles, immense. 8?

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:21 pm
by banqo
DrWindy wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:18 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:20 pm I know Spen will tell me those 3 points are the same as any other 3 points but that's nonsense. That was a massive win.

As we lined up pre kick-off, I had the same sinking feeling as I had before Stevenage. They looked like a team of giants; we've lost Happe, Pratley and Drinnan and replaced with a load of 5 foot 9 short arses. But credit to everyone, we matched them physically across the pitch and Beckles singled-handedly dealt with their aerial threat.

Vigaroux 6. Some give him stick for his distribution most games and I always defend him. But it was a little off today (I understand why, he was deliberately trying to keep it wide away from their big lumps, but he hit touch too often). No saves to make, stayed big for the one real chance they had and put their guy off.

Hunt 7. Solid, reliable, boring.

Sweeney 6. Decent considering the lack of game time he's had. Better going forward than defending - half a second too slow on a couple of occassions resulting in his booking and having to be subbed for fear of a red. No issue if he starts again.

Beckles 8. Immense.

Turns 5. Out of his depth. Too short to be a centre back at any meaningful level of football.

El Miz 8. Immenser. Would love it if we can go up and keep him. MOTM.

Lydon 5. Some glimpses to suggest he's going to be alright in time but the game just passed him by. Fortunately he had El Miz to cover his arse.

Moncur 7. Much much better. Wonder goal. Out on his feet for the last 25 minutes.

Theo 7. Much much better as well after a few quieter weeks, back to his snarly, annoying self. His performance was typified by the goal line clearance after he and Moncur lost the ball at a short corner.

Kelman 5. Just not big enough or strong enough to lead the line alone.

Sadlier 6. Love the way he floats around the pitch with and without the ball. I like the look of him a lot.

Subs:

Clay 7. Perfect game for him.

Thompson 7. Superb dropping in at RB. Should start next week centrally; almost criminal that he hasn't been playing

Drinnan 7. Actually gave their pair of CBs something to think about when he came on, lovely to have him back.

James 6. Ok, got away with one howler.

Ruel 5.

(Is that right? Are we allowed 5 subs nowadays?)

Wimbledon are a half decent side, they make you work for everything, we more than matched them on that front this time out.
I agree with much of that, but are your scores out of 8?

Beckles, immense. 8?
I can't believe you gave Turns 5, really??

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:23 pm
by DrWindy
Turns was excellent. Had a very solid game.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:29 pm
by banqo
Sorry,wrong person, that was meant for Trump Plumbing!

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:30 pm
by PotatOhead
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:20 pm I know Spen will tell me those 3 points are the same as any other 3 points but that's nonsense. That was a massive win.

As we lined up pre kick-off, I had the same sinking feeling as I had before Stevenage. They looked like a team of giants; we've lost Happe, Pratley and Drinnan and replaced with a load of 5 foot 9 short arses. But credit to everyone, we matched them physically across the pitch and Beckles singled-handedly dealt with their aerial threat.

Vigaroux 6. Some give him stick for his distribution most games and I always defend him. But it was a little off today (I understand why, he was deliberately trying to keep it wide away from their big lumps, but he hit touch too often). No saves to make, stayed big for the one real chance they had and put their guy off.

Hunt 7. Solid, reliable, boring.

Sweeney 6. Decent considering the lack of game time he's had. Better going forward than defending - half a second too slow on a couple of occassions resulting in his booking and having to be subbed for fear of a red. No issue if he starts again.

Beckles 8. Immense.

Turns 5. Out of his depth. Too short to be a centre back at any meaningful level of football.

El Miz 8. Immenser. Would love it if we can go up and keep him. MOTM.

Lydon 5. Some glimpses to suggest he's going to be alright in time but the game just passed him by. Fortunately he had El Miz to cover his arse.

Moncur 7. Much much better. Wonder goal. Out on his feet for the last 25 minutes.

Theo 7. Much much better as well after a few quieter weeks, back to his snarly, annoying self. His performance was typified by the goal line clearance after he and Moncur lost the ball at a short corner.

Kelman 5. Just not big enough or strong enough to lead the line alone.

Sadlier 6. Love the way he floats around the pitch with and without the ball. I like the look of him a lot.

Subs:

Clay 7. Perfect game for him.

Thompson 7. Superb dropping in at RB. Should start next week centrally; almost criminal that he hasn't been playing

Drinnan 7. Actually gave their pair of CBs something to think about when he came on, lovely to have him back.

James 6. Ok, got away with one howler.

Ruel 5.

(Is that right? Are we allowed 5 subs nowadays?)

Wimbledon are a half decent side, they make you work for everything, we more than matched them on that front this time out.
Not sure on your logic giving turns a 5. Was pretty solid from start to finish imo.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:32 pm
by BoniO
Agreed - Turns had a great game especially as he’s a new boy.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:19 am
by Max Fowler
Disagree - he couldn't physically handle their striker with the plaits and was bullied all game. He's not exactly quick either.

Was McCart on the bench or is he injured?

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:23 am
by Max Fowler
DrWindy wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:18 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:20 pm I know Spen will tell me those 3 points are the same as any other 3 points but that's nonsense. That was a massive win.

As we lined up pre kick-off, I had the same sinking feeling as I had before Stevenage. They looked like a team of giants; we've lost Happe, Pratley and Drinnan and replaced with a load of 5 foot 9 short arses. But credit to everyone, we matched them physically across the pitch and Beckles singled-handedly dealt with their aerial threat.

Vigaroux 6. Some give him stick for his distribution most games and I always defend him. But it was a little off today (I understand why, he was deliberately trying to keep it wide away from their big lumps, but he hit touch too often). No saves to make, stayed big for the one real chance they had and put their guy off.

Hunt 7. Solid, reliable, boring.

Sweeney 6. Decent considering the lack of game time he's had. Better going forward than defending - half a second too slow on a couple of occassions resulting in his booking and having to be subbed for fear of a red. No issue if he starts again.

Beckles 8. Immense.

Turns 5. Out of his depth. Too short to be a centre back at any meaningful level of football.

El Miz 8. Immenser. Would love it if we can go up and keep him. MOTM.

Lydon 5. Some glimpses to suggest he's going to be alright in time but the game just passed him by. Fortunately he had El Miz to cover his arse.

Moncur 7. Much much better. Wonder goal. Out on his feet for the last 25 minutes.

Theo 7. Much much better as well after a few quieter weeks, back to his snarly, annoying self. His performance was typified by the goal line clearance after he and Moncur lost the ball at a short corner.

Kelman 5. Just not big enough or strong enough to lead the line alone.

Sadlier 6. Love the way he floats around the pitch with and without the ball. I like the look of him a lot.

Subs:

Clay 7. Perfect game for him.

Thompson 7. Superb dropping in at RB. Should start next week centrally; almost criminal that he hasn't been playing

Drinnan 7. Actually gave their pair of CBs something to think about when he came on, lovely to have him back.

James 6. Ok, got away with one howler.

Ruel 5.

(Is that right? Are we allowed 5 subs nowadays?)

Wimbledon are a half decent side, they make you work for everything, we more than matched them on that front this time out.
I agree with much of that, but are your scores out of 8?

Beckles, immense. 8?
Don't think anyone was a 9 or a 10. But it's only numbers.

Great - El Miz, Beckles

Good - Moncur, Theo, Drinnan, Clay, Thompson

Acceptable - Vigaro, Hunt, Sweeney, Kelman (just), Sadlier, James

Unacceptable - Turns, Lydon, Ruel

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:03 am
by Mistadobalina
Turns strikes me as the sort of centre back that'll thrive in a back 3 as the ball playing defender. I think he handled the physical stuff pretty well for the most part and has a very good jump on him for a smaller defender, but can see him struggling against a better quality of target man. He's an obvious Brighton product, his distribution and composure looks fantastic for this level. In a 3 man set up he could let the others deal with the aerial stuff more and he would be the one bringing the ball out.

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:07 am
by tuffers#1
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:20 pm I know Spen will tell me those 3 points are the same as any other 3 points but that's nonsense. That was a massive win.

As we lined up pre kick-off, I had the same sinking feeling as I had before Stevenage. They looked like a team of giants; we've lost Happe, Pratley and Drinnan and replaced with a load of 5 foot 9 short arses. But credit to everyone, we matched them physically across the pitch and Beckles singled-handedly dealt with their aerial threat.

Vigaroux 6. Some give him stick for his distribution most games and I always defend him. But it was a little off today (I understand why, he was deliberately trying to keep it wide away from their big lumps, but he hit touch too often). No saves to make, stayed big for the one real chance they had and put their guy off.

Hunt 7. Solid, reliable, boring.

Sweeney 6. Decent considering the lack of game time he's had. Better going forward than defending - half a second too slow on a couple of occassions resulting in his booking and having to be subbed for fear of a red. No issue if he starts again.

Beckles 8. Immense.

Turns 5. Out of his depth. Too short to be a centre back at any meaningful level of football.

El Miz 8. Immenser. Would love it if we can go up and keep him. MOTM.

Lydon 5. Some glimpses to suggest he's going to be alright in time but the game just passed him by. Fortunately he had El Miz to cover his arse.

Moncur 7. Much much better. Wonder goal. Out on his feet for the last 25 minutes.

Theo 7. Much much better as well after a few quieter weeks, back to his snarly, annoying self. His performance was typified by the goal line clearance after he and Moncur lost the ball at a short corner.

Kelman 5. Just not big enough or strong enough to lead the line alone.

Sadlier 6. Love the way he floats around the pitch with and without the ball. I like the look of him a lot.

Subs:

Clay 7. Perfect game for him.

Thompson 7. Superb dropping in at RB. Should start next week centrally; almost criminal that he hasn't been playing

Drinnan 7. Actually gave their pair of CBs something to think about when he came on, lovely to have him back.

James 6. Ok, got away with one howler.

Ruel 5.

(Is that right? Are we allowed 5 subs nowadays?)

Wimbledon are a half decent side, they make you work for everything, we more than matched them on that front this time out.
Week in Week out you show yourself up with your Footballing knowledge , I dont know why you bother 5 for Turns ? Ludicrous alias whose ever it is please BIN IT OFF !!

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:27 am
by Max Fowler
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:03 am Turns strikes me as the sort of centre back that'll thrive in a back 3 as the ball playing defender. I think he handled the physical stuff pretty well for the most part and has a very good jump on him for a smaller defender, but can see him struggling against a better quality of target man. He's an obvious Brighton product, his distribution and composure looks fantastic for this level. In a 3 man set up he could let the others deal with the aerial stuff more and he would be the one bringing the ball out.
Really hope I'm wrong and I'm being overly critical on the kid.(I accept I kind of had a downer on him after he let their big 8 get away from him at a set piece in the first few minutes and only a fantastic clearing header from Beckles saved him).

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:29 am
by Max Fowler
And I don't buy the 'but he'd be ok in a 3' argument. If you want to be a centre half you have to be able to do the basic stuff like playing in a 2 and being able to head a ball.

Maybe his future is as a full back?

Re: Ratings.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:17 am
by DrWindy
I thought Turns had a decent game. No way a 5.

Wimbledon are probably the most physical side in the division alongside Stevenage and I don’t recall Turns getting bullied or losing much.

I agree he’s not the biggest but there’s been plenty centre backs who have been decent and no bigger.

I know he’s young but I don’t see an EPL player there on his displays so far but I still like the look of him. We’ve had a heck of a lot worse. Early days.