No. We should not be paying transfer fees like that for 30 year olds with no resale value.
The gift of hindsight is a wonderful thing
Nothing to do with hindsight or how Moncur has turned out, it should be our policy. It's like someone suddenly had £300k thrown at them by Peterboro and didn't know what to do with it.
Nobody was complaining or querying the fee when Moncur looked a class above early in the season and everything was going well.
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:00 am
by RedDwarf 1881
The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:08 pm
Money talks, he's off I'm told
Then kiss any promotion hopes goodbye . Our strikers are crap so we only have Smyth worldies to rely on . Saying that Smyth gets injured a lot and missies quite a few games . Maybe if we move fast enough we can bring in another player .
The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:08 pm
Money talks, he's off I'm told
Then kiss any promotion hopes goodbye . Our strikers are crap so we only have Smyth worldies to rely on . Saying that Smyth gets injured a lot and missies quite a few games . Maybe if we move fast enough we can bring in another player .
To disprove your Lazy defeatist Statement
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:25 am
by RedDwarf 1881
How many of those goals were scored by our strikers .....One . virtually all our goals were scored by defenders and wingers .
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:01 am
by tuffers#1
How many of our 36 goals were scored by Smyth our midfielder/Winger & not technically a striker ?
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:49 am
by moonwalk19
Cheshunto wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:12 pm
Guess the club can’t afford to turn down £300k but fans will be disappointed.
Not sure if this increases the pressure on RW to get us over the line or not.
With the amount of rich board members we supposedly have 300k is peanuts to them. I know he is accident prone but he is one player that can help us get promotion. The fans will turn against the management he they allow this to happen. That said perhaps he wants to go especially if he can treble his wages.
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:20 am
by tuffers#1
What If he wants to play in the championship now & its not about money , we cant keep him here against his wishes , why do fans always forget this stuff ?
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:32 am
by moonwalk19
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:20 am
What If he wants to play in the championship now & its not about money , we cant keep him here against his wishes , why do fans always forget this stuff ?
Of course it’s about money. If he can treble his wages that’s a good enough reason for leaving. He has a young family to think about. Orients offer to him is probably peanuts compared to what he can get in a higher league. The board probably knew about this sometime ago. Yes we have a replacement but with that money coming in we should have also looked for a goalscorer.
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:46 am
by Luna Tic
Better give Kenny a call to see if he can recommend a replacement, for the gem he found us. If he goes I think promotion becomes much harder , he’s been a massive part of our success this season, he can turn a game . We shouldn’t let him go until May and we should be asking £500,000 if he insists on going , not roll over for £300,000. Show some guts Orient
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:57 am
by Petrov788
If he goes we aren't getting promoted, it's that simple.
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:20 am
What If he wants to play in the championship now & its not about money , we cant keep him here against his wishes , why do fans always forget this stuff ?
Of course it’s about money. If he can treble his wages that’s a good enough reason for leaving. He has a young family to think about. Orients offer to him is probably peanuts compared to what he can get in a higher league. The board probably knew about this sometime ago. Yes we have a replacement but with that money coming in we should have also looked for a goalscorer.
He's earning more than enough money to support a child. People manage on far less
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:03 am
by essexfootball
If he does go the club need to gamble today on a striker/winger and go for it
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:13 am
by Beradogs
Agree with some of the sentiments above. If he leaves we are not getting promoted. Even with the squad we have players like Sotiriou are still getting starts. If he goes we see more of Ruel running up blind alleys and falling over and more of Drinnan, Kelman, A.N.Other, running around like headless chickens with zero end product. I see Stevenage just signed a forward yesterday. Fantastic goal scoring record albeit mostly from lower leagues. They are still bringing in players (without losing any) and we are selling Smyth. We would deserve everything we get if that happens.
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:20 am
What If he wants to play in the championship now & its not about money , we cant keep him here against his wishes , why do fans always forget this stuff ?
Of course it’s about money. If he can treble his wages that’s a good enough reason for leaving. He has a young family to think about. Orients offer to him is probably peanuts compared to what he can get in a higher league. The board probably knew about this sometime ago. Yes we have a replacement but with that money coming in we should have also looked for a goalscorer.
You missed the point of "Championship Football" , He's far more likely to play International Football again there than in Leagues 1 or 2. Money is a given higher up !
Still he's not gone just yet so no point bringing someone else untill he has.
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:17 am
by moonwalk19
Luna Tic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:46 am
Better give Kenny a call to see if he can recommend a replacement, for the gem he found us. If he goes I think promotion becomes much harder , he’s been a massive part of our success this season, he can turn a game . We shouldn’t let him go until May and we should be asking £500,000 if he insists on going , not roll over for £300,000. Show some guts Orient
Agree. 300k is peanuts for a player of his quality.Alright we miss out on a fee if we wait until the end of the season. It’s more important for him to stay and help us get promotion.
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:44 am
by Long slender neck
I reckon this is absolute bullshit. No reliable source.
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:06 am
by faith1234
We need another forward someone who has a good record in the football league
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:12 am
by Cheshunto
faith1234 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:06 am
We need another forward someone who has a good record in the football league
Nothing to do with hindsight or how Moncur has turned out, it should be our policy. It's like someone suddenly had £300k thrown at them by Peterboro and didn't know what to do with it.
Nobody was complaining or querying the fee when Moncur looked a class above early in the season and everything was going well.
People have rightly started querying it this window when it's become clear we've done all our money.
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:37 am
by tuffers#1
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:44 am
I reckon this is absolute bullshit. No reliable source.
Luna Tic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:46 am
Better give Kenny a call to see if he can recommend a replacement, for the gem he found us. If he goes I think promotion becomes much harder , he’s been a massive part of our success this season, he can turn a game . We shouldn’t let him go until May and we should be asking £500,000 if he insists on going , not roll over for £300,000. Show some guts Orient
Agree. 300k is peanuts for a player of his quality.Alright we miss out on a fee if we wait until the end of the season. It’s more important for him to stay and help us get promotion.
For his quality yes; for his ability to stay fit I'd say no. If Smyth does have a decision to make today it will be football versus finances. A team like Brum can't afford to manage his minutes in any where near the same way as we have had to. If I was a betting man, then he will only last half a dozen games at a championship side before breaking down in some way. Its very sad because his ability is clear, but he's made of glass.
FWIW he's hardly made a contribution to our efforts throughout the month of January. He's been very off colour and is a primary reason for our change of fortune. Its not as if he's been man marked out of games - he just ain't been in them.
Luna Tic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:46 am
Better give Kenny a call to see if he can recommend a replacement, for the gem he found us. If he goes I think promotion becomes much harder , he’s been a massive part of our success this season, he can turn a game . We shouldn’t let him go until May and we should be asking £500,000 if he insists on going , not roll over for £300,000. Show some guts Orient
Agree. 300k is peanuts for a player of his quality.Alright we miss out on a fee if we wait until the end of the season. It’s more important for him to stay and help us get promotion.
For his quality yes; for his ability to stay fit I'd say no. If Smyth does have a decision to make today it will be football versus finances. A team like Brum can't afford to manage his minutes in any where near the same way as we have had to. If I was a betting man, then he will only last half a dozen games at a championship side before breaking down in some way. Its very sad because his ability is clear, but he's made of glass.
FWIW he's hardly made a contribution to our efforts throughout the month of January. He's been very off colour and is a primary reason for our change of fortune. Its not as if he's been man marked out of games - he just ain't been in them.
was poor v stockport & Barrow & a few others , only scored 5 more than Moncur . If he really was championship quality he'd be close to 15 goals .
Re: Anyone heard a rumour
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:04 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Petrov788 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:57 am
If he goes we aren't getting promoted, it's that simple.
Correct . IMO, we would be selling our promotion .
