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Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:05 pm**

Probably better in the U21 team that played us. My Chelsea supporting mate certainly thinks so.

Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:06 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:54 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:51 pm I think we had as much to do with the young man returning to Chelsea, as they recalling him.
I think we'll bring in a better striker now
Hopefully. Edit . I meant to add good luck for the future Jayden and thank you .

Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:49 pm**

I too wish Jayden all the best. We don't seem to have too much success with our loan forwards, some did nothing but improved later on like John Marquis. Harry Kane, Andros Townsend and all those years ago, Kevin Campbell did do well. Others, like John Marquis did nothing with us but improved later on. Any others?

Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:18 pm**

Another successful Martin Ling loan move

Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:39 pm**

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:18 pm Another successful Martin Ling loan move

What’s it like to be perfect Biggsy

Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:04 pm**

Harlow wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:49 pm Others, like John Marquis did nothing with us but improved later on. Any others?

Maybe Scott Wagstaff (Charlton), Jayden Stockley (Bournemouth) and Harry Cornick (Bournemouth)

Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:22 pm**

Harry Kane

Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:47 pm**

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:48 pm Probably found him another loan. Good Luck to him.

Hope he gets more minutes elsewhere

Maybe.

Not good enough for L2 yet, and not tough enough to lead the line for a National League side.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:41 am**

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:39 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:18 pm Another successful Martin Ling loan move
What’s it like to be perfect Biggsy

I don’t know. He seems to like getting players in on loan who barely play

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:58 am**

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:41 am
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:39 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:18 pm Another successful Martin Ling loan move
What’s it like to be perfect Biggsy
I don’t know. He seems to like getting players in on loan who barely play

Archibald

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:21 am**

Add Kelman and El Miz to Archibald

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:30 am**

timothy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:21 am Add Kelman and El Miz to Archibald

But 3 Good ones are cancelled out by 1 average one in the HATERS book !!

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:53 am**

And Mitchell did ok

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:13 am**

I get what the moaners are trying to say.

We have a track record of bringing in 19-22 year old Premier/Championship, wet behind the ears kids who just ain't up to it. So long as we are not paying their wages, I can't get too upset by this.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:32 am**

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:13 am I get what the moaners are trying to say.

We have a track record of bringing in 19-22 year old Premier/Championship, wet behind the ears kids who just ain't up to it. So long as we are not paying their wages, I can't get too upset by this.

But what is the point of a season long loan?
How are we developing them? Through training with the first team?
Surely our coaches are experienced enough to see after a maybe a month wether or not they’re worth keeping!

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:42 am**

Did PTerry maybe arrange this loan with his links to Chelsea via his Brother?

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:33 am**

Story of O wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:53 am And Mitchell did ok

He did. Basically the best loanees we've had recently have been from non-big clubs.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:40 am**

cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:32 am How are we developing them? Through training with the first team?

It's exactly this. Training with senior pro's every day instead of other 20 year old boys is a massive difference. Plus sitting on the bench as part of a match day squad in front of 1,000s of spectators.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:07 am**

So it took three months for us to see that he wasn't what we're looking for ?

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:23 am**

Neptune's Spear wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:07 am So it took three months for us to see that he wasn't what we're looking for ?

I thought that wasn't our decision , Chelsea recalled him .

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:21 pm**

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:40 am
cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:32 am How are we developing them? Through training with the first team?
It's exactly this. Training with senior pro's every day instead of other 20 year old boys is a massive difference. Plus sitting on the bench as part of a match day squad in front of 1,000s of spectators.

So no benefit to us at all! A complete waste of time.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:33 pm**

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:33 am
Story of O wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:53 am And Mitchell did ok
He did. Basically the best loanees we've had recently have been from non-big clubs.

Twas ever thus. But that won't stop some of the people who complain that the big club loanees aren't up to it from getting excited next time we get someone in from a big club.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:36 pm**

Saved us playing a full pro in the plastic cup and did OK in a game or two earlier in the season iirc. Not quite there yet physically as shown in the Northampton game.

Good luck to him for his next move. Need to get another one in now.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:57 pm**

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:36 pm Saved us playing a full pro in the plastic cup and did OK in a game or two earlier in the season iirc. Not quite there yet physically as shown in the Northampton game.

Good luck to him for his next move. Need to get another one in now.

We’re not doing very well at the moment at bringing anybody in. It’s beginning to look like we’ll be going with the same patched up defence again as last Saturday against Barrow

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:27 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:57 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:36 pm Saved us playing a full pro in the plastic cup and did OK in a game or two earlier in the season iirc. Not quite there yet physically as shown in the Northampton game.

Good luck to him for his next move. Need to get another one in now.
We’re not doing very well at the moment at bringing anybody in. It’s beginning to look like we’ll be going with the same patched up defence again as last Saturday against Barrow

Would that be the same patched up defence that let in no goals, and Vigs had hardly anything to do. I don't dispute we need a centre half, but more important that we get the right one, rather than the wrong one in a hurry.

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