Independent Leyton Orient Forum

PutneyO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:21 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:28 am Never heard of him, well done Ling.

Who heard of Harry Kane when he joined us ?

Kane did ok for us. Alongside the experienced McGleish.

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:34 pm

PutneyO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:21 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:28 am Never heard of him, well done Ling.

Who heard of Harry Kane when he joined us ?

Or Alex Mitchall ? But did a decent job for us

Mitchell did ok for us. Alongside the experienced Beccles.

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:53 am

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:35 am

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:15 am Making arguably our most important signing of the summer a 19 year old kid on loan who's never played senior football would be peak Ling.

Not writing him off, but it's ridiculously on brand for the club.

*less than a week before the season starts

At least this one isn’t injured.

Yet.

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 3:01 pm

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:34 pm

PutneyO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:21 pm
Who heard of Harry Kane when he joined us ?

Or Alex Mitchall ? But did a decent job for us

Mitchell did ok for us. Alongside the experienced Beccles.

Turner will have the very experienced Pratley nearby

Really like this loan signing, young hungry kid on loan wanting to impress, and we have given him the platform in L2 to do it for The O’s in a position we need to strengthen.
Well done everyone

Where does that leave Coleman and Brown bringing in another young midfielder on loan . I’d send either Coleman or Brown out on loan and bring in another senior midfielder.

Think it was Kelman who seen at open day.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:26 pm Where does that leave Coleman and Brown bringing in another young midfielder on loan . I’d send either Coleman or Brown out on loan and bring in another senior midfielder.

One of them out on loan probably. Of the two Brown has shown a bit more so he might stay?

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:00 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:26 pm Where does that leave Coleman and Brown bringing in another young midfielder on loan . I’d send either Coleman or Brown out on loan and bring in another senior midfielder.

One of them out on loan probably. Of the two Brown has shown a bit more so he might stay?

Im not sure loaning out 1st team squad is helpful , werent bedwetters saying we had a threadbare squad already ?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:18 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:00 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:26 pm Where does that leave Coleman and Brown bringing in another young midfielder on loan . I’d send either Coleman or Brown out on loan and bring in another senior midfielder.

One of them out on loan probably. Of the two Brown has shown a bit more so he might stay?

Im not sure loaning out 1st team squad is helpful , werent bedwetters saying we had a threadbare squad already ?

Midfield is short but Coleman hasn't made it any better (arguably had the opposite effect) so if he goes out and better options come in then it's a net gain.

Be interesting whether this Southampton loan is a first choice or one of the 3 filler signings RW alluded to the other week.

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:28 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:18 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:00 pm

One of them out on loan probably. Of the two Brown has shown a bit more so he might stay?

Im not sure loaning out 1st team squad is helpful , werent bedwetters saying we had a threadbare squad already ?

Midfield is short but Coleman hasn't made it any better (arguably had the opposite effect) so if he goes out and better options come in then it's a net gain.

Be interesting whether this Southampton loan is a first choice or one of the 3 filler signings RW alluded to the other week.

Arguably by who Wellens & T&T ?

Story of O wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:28 pm

PutneyO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:21 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:28 am Never heard of him, well done Ling.

Who heard of Harry Kane when he joined us ?

True. the other two lads from Spurs did better for us, but Kane has had the better career

Amen to that. Too many O's fans try to rewrite history.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:31 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:28 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:18 pm

Im not sure loaning out 1st team squad is helpful , werent bedwetters saying we had a threadbare squad already ?

Midfield is short but Coleman hasn't made it any better (arguably had the opposite effect) so if he goes out and better options come in then it's a net gain.

Be interesting whether this Southampton loan is a first choice or one of the 3 filler signings RW alluded to the other week.

Arguably by who Wellens & T&T ?

His performances on the pitch thus far, looked miles off being an L2 player.

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:35 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:31 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:28 pm

Midfield is short but Coleman hasn't made it any better (arguably had the opposite effect) so if he goes out and better options come in then it's a net gain.

Be interesting whether this Southampton loan is a first choice or one of the 3 filler signings RW alluded to the other week.

Arguably by who Wellens & T&T ?

His performances on the pitch thus far, looked miles off being an L2 player.

Obviously Wellens doesn’t agree with you

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:35 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:31 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:28 pm

Midfield is short but Coleman hasn't made it any better (arguably had the opposite effect) so if he goes out and better options come in then it's a net gain.

Be interesting whether this Southampton loan is a first choice or one of the 3 filler signings RW alluded to the other week.

Arguably by who Wellens & T&T ?

His performances on the pitch thus far, looked miles off being an L2 player.

Thats an opinion & not facts. The Jury can disregard that statement .

No mention of Jack Turner’s signing on our official website
Maybe tomorrow??

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:51 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:35 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:31 pm

Arguably by who Wellens & T&T ?

His performances on the pitch thus far, looked miles off being an L2 player.

Obviously Wellens doesn’t agree with you

Yes , that’s why he’s brought in another young central midfielder

So just a rumour at the moment then

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:51 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:35 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:31 pm

Arguably by who Wellens & T&T ?

His performances on the pitch thus far, looked miles off being an L2 player.

Obviously Wellens doesn’t agree with you

Obviously Wellens does agree, hence this signing.

I’m with others, Brown looked the better bet last season, Coleman should go and get some game time, try to become the player Lingy thinks he is.

Travis said he'd be the next Xavi or something.

I'm trying to paint a picture as to the exact role Turner is going to play.

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:37 am I'm trying to paint a picture as to the exact role Turner is going to play.

He has to be the deep lying midfielder out of the 3, the role Hector was playing under Wellens. His job in offence is to collect the ball from the back 4 and link play.

It’s a crucial role when you want to play out from the back as Richie does.

Richie wants to play a 4-2-3-1 system. In that system, Jack Turner would be one of the 2, with Clay probably, or maybe Pratley

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:41 am

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:37 am I'm trying to paint a picture as to the exact role Turner is going to play.

He has to be the deep lying midfielder out of the 3, the role Hector was playing under Wellens. His job in offence is to collect the ball from the back 4 and link play.

It’s a crucial role when you want to play out from the back as Richie does.

Not really the role for someone who's never played before.

Young loanees – last ten years

Ryan Brunt (Stoke City - on a six months loan in July 2012)
Scott Wagstaff (Charlton - on a one month loan in Oct. 2012)
Alex Smith (Fulham - on a two months loan in Nov. 2012)
Ade Azeez (Charlton - one month loan in Jan. 2013)

Jayden Stockley (Bournemouth - on a three months loan in Sept. 2013)
Frankie Sutherland (QPR - on a one month loan in Oct. 2013)
Jamie Ness (Stoke City - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Shaquile Coulthirst (Tottenham - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Jamar Loza (Norwich City - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Michael Pettrasso (QPR - on a one month loan Sept. 2014)
Jack Price (Wolves - on a three months loan in Oct. 2014)
John Lundstram (Everton - on a one month loan in Jan. 2015)
Ryan Hedges (Swansea - on a one month loan in Jan. 2015)

Joe Maguire (Liverpool - on a one month loan in Aug. 2015)
Adam Chicksen (Brighton - on a one month loan in Oct. 2015)
Cole Kpekawa (QPR - on a three months loan in Nov. 2015)
Calaum Jahraldo-Martin (Hull City - on a four-months in Jan. 2016)
Jerome Binnom-Williams (Crystal Palace - on a four-months loan in Jan. 2016)
David Gregory (Crystal Palace - on a three-months loan in Mar. 2016)

Harry Cornick (Bournemouth - on a five-months loan in July 2016)
Jordan Green (Bournemouth - on a four-months loan in Jan. 2017)

Zain Westbrooke (Brentford - on a three months loan in Oct. 2017)
Ebou Adams (Norwich - on a five months loan in Jan. 2018)

Levi Lumeka (Crystal Palace - on a season long loan in Aug. 2018)

George Marsh (Tottenham - on a four months loan in Aug. 2019)
Kazaiah Sterling (Tottenham - on a four months loan in Jan. 2020)

Jordan Thomas (Norwich City - on a season-long loan in Sept. 2020)
Olatunji Akinola (West Ham United - on a season-long loan in Oct. 2020)

Tyrese Omotoye (Norwich City - on a season-long loan in Aug. 2021)
Alex Mitchell (Millwall - on a season-long loan in Aug. 2021)
Dan Moss (Millwall - on a five months loan in Jan. 2022)

Some of them have done pretty well, but the list shows it has always been a bit of gamble to sign untested youngsters on loan.