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Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 8:46 pm
by Dunners
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 6:56 pm
Big twist in the Iranian president crash.
Looking more and more like it was the result of sabotage by a rogue Mossad agent called Eli Kopter
Iran has released a transcript of the cockpit recordings:
Pilot: We might have to try an emergency landing on that mountain.
Copilot: On the mountain?! What is it??
Pilot: It's an elevated land mass that projects conspicuously above its surroundings, but that's not important right now.
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:14 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Admin wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 7:04 pm
Think I've said this already - I'm no fan of Israel's actions (nor Hamas before anyone asks) but Nazi comparisons are offensive and add nothing.
Posts deleted for the moment. Repeat offenders will face a ban.
Wow.... You didn't strike me as a man that would silence debate and reduce democracy
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:29 pm
by Long slender neck
I agree with the Tuff stance on anti semitism
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:33 pm
by Max B Gold
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 9:14 pm
Admin wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 7:04 pm
Think I've said this already - I'm no fan of Israel's actions (nor Hamas before anyone asks) but Nazi comparisons are offensive and add nothing.
Posts deleted for the moment. Repeat offenders will face a ban.
Wow.... You didn't strike me as a man that would silence debate and reduce democracy
He's right though, comparing the genocidal actions of the Israeli state with the Nazis is offensive.
It would be more useful to point out that Zionist ideology elevates one race/religion beyond all others and that is a hallmark of fascism.
Never forget, fascism doesn't start with the concentration camps. That's where it ends.
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:42 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 9:33 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 9:14 pm
Admin wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 7:04 pm
Think I've said this already - I'm no fan of Israel's actions (nor Hamas before anyone asks) but Nazi comparisons are offensive and add nothing.
Posts deleted for the moment. Repeat offenders will face a ban.
Wow.... You didn't strike me as a man that would silence debate and reduce democracy
He's right though, comparing the genocidal actions of the Israeli state with the Nazis is offensive.
It would be more useful to point out that Zionist ideology elevates one race/religion beyond all others and that is a hallmark of fascism.
Never forget, fascism doesn't start with the concentration camps. That's where it ends.
I agree with your last 2 paragraphs, but only Israel would get the protection Admin has afforded it
If I were to call the Russians the N word, I guarantee that would be acceptable.
Remember the old Voltaire saying " to find out who rules over you, find out who you're not allowed to criticize". Or words to that effect
I'll leave it there
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:47 pm
by Proposition Joe
"Israel secretly run the unofficial Leyton Orient message board" is a pinnacle of this thread.
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:58 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
The quote COYOs attributes to Voltaire is actually from a neo-nazi as well
But I’m sure that’s just a coincidence given he posted it in response to antisemitic content being removed
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/massi ... -voltaire/
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 10:14 pm
by Admin
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 9:14 pm
Admin wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 7:04 pm
Think I've said this already - I'm no fan of Israel's actions (nor Hamas before anyone asks) but Nazi comparisons are offensive and add nothing.
Posts deleted for the moment. Repeat offenders will face a ban.
Wow.... You didn't strike me as a man that would silence debate and reduce democracy
I’ve done neither. I’ve asked that offensive comparisons aren’t used. Neither post removed added anything to any debate.
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 10:15 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Anti Semitic content wasn't removed, anti Israel content was removed.
Ones a religion, the others a nation.
Please get your terminology correct before you make silly posts
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 10:21 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 10:15 pm
Anti Semitic content wasn't removed, anti Israel content was removed.
Ones a religion, the others a nation.
Please get your terminology correct before you make silly posts
The IHRA working definition of antisemitism begs to differ
In other news, maybe reflect on the fact you’re quoting neo nazis
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 10:22 pm
by Admin
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 10:15 pm
Anti Semitic content wasn't removed, anti Israel content was removed.
Ones a religion, the others a nation.
Please get your terminology correct before you make silly posts
Go read the IHRA definitions of anti-semitism.
Quote from it: Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
I’d stop now as you’re making yourself look a bit silly (again). I understand it’s an emotive subject and I’m no supporter of Israel’s actions but I’m not resorting to using anti-Semitic tropes to express my view.
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 10:41 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
The guy that drew up the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, wasn't happy with it, and disowned it.
I have the article somewhere.
When I find it I'll post it
It confuses anti Semitism with anti Zionism
1400 Jewish American professors have petitioned for it to be removed for that very reason
I'll post a lot of stuff that discredits the IHRA definition tomorrow when I find it
Anti Zionism is legal and allowed (except on this board it seems)
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 10:57 pm
by Max B Gold
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 11:14 pm
by Max B Gold
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 11:50 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 6:56 pm
Big twist in the Iranian president crash.
Looking more and more like it was the result of sabotage by a rogue Mossad agent called Eli Kopter
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 11:52 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 10:15 pm
Anti Semitic content wasn't removed, anti Israel content was removed.
Ones a religion, the others a nation.
Please get your terminology correct before you make silly posts
Apart from Israel how many other nations in the world is Jewish .?
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 11:59 pm
by Brigs
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 11:52 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 10:15 pm
Anti Semitic content wasn't removed, anti Israel content was removed.
Ones a religion, the others a nation.
Please get your terminology correct before you make silly posts
Apart from Israel how many other nations in the world is Jewish .?
How many countries in the world are Hare Krishna?
Re: Israel
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 1:13 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Brigs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 11:59 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 11:52 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 10:15 pm
Anti Semitic content wasn't removed, anti Israel content was removed.
Ones a religion, the others a nation.
Please get your terminology correct before you make silly posts
Apart from Israel how many other nations in the world is Jewish .?
How many countries in the world are Hare Krishna?
Really ? that's a poor answer .
Re: Israel
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:41 am
by ComeOnYouOs
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 10:41 pm
The guy that drew up the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, wasn't happy with it, and disowned it.
I have the article somewhere.
When I find it I'll post it
It confuses anti Semitism with anti Zionism
1400 Jewish American professors have petitioned for it to be removed for that very reason
I'll post a lot of stuff that discredits the IHRA definition tomorrow when I find it
Anti Zionism is legal and allowed (except on this board it seems)
Ok, I said id post a lot of stuff that questions the Ihra definition of anti semitism, and the links below from all over the place, including Jewish authorities explain why that definition is flawed
Basically, the IHRA definition of antisemitism simply protects Israel from justified criticism, it stifles free speech
The links below explain it well
https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/fig ... g-approach
https://cst.org.uk/news/blog/2021/04/01 ... tisemitism
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/ ... i-semitism
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/a ... -criticism
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releas ... ism-letter
https://www.ijvcanada.org/fighting-anti ... -approach/
Re: Israel
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:49 am
by Brigs
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 1:13 am
Brigs wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 11:59 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 11:52 pm
Apart from Israel how many other nations in the world is Jewish .?
How many countries in the world are Hare Krishna?
Really ? that's a poor answer .
As Poor as the question really.
How many Catholic nations?
How many church of England nations?
How many Sikh nations?
Re: Israel
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:19 am
by CEB
“I'll post a lot of stuff that discredits the IHRA definition tomorrow when I find it”
I’m on tenterhooks.
Re: Israel
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:44 am
by Orient Punxx
Re: Israel
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:53 am
by Proposition Joe
But the Taliban are our pals now so what's the issue?
Re: Israel
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:11 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 10:53 am
But the Taliban are our pals now so what's the issue?
They wi
Re: Israel
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:24 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Quite funny seeing some boarders still standing firm despite COYOs being right on most stuff regarding Israel in this thread.