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Thor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:10 am I see David Milliband earned over $1m last year some funded by tax payer money. What do the labour supporters think on here about such rewards?

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:43 am Thor is a right winger and Tory supporter so can’t be anti Semitic. Please apologise, tuffers.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:18 am Im putting my serious hat on now.
All democracies need political parties from all side of politics, or they are faux democracies.

With Starmer taking Labour much further right, people with left wing politics, become politically homeless.

The Tories are very right wing these days, and now Labour is a centre, or centre/right party, democracy isnt being served fully.

We have Lib Dems & Greens, true, but there isnt a non revolutionary socialist party now, so millions are politically homeless.

If a new left wing movement was formed, with people like Corbyn, Williamson, Burgeon, Lewis, Pidcock,etc, I would vote for that party, and I suspect, so would a lot of other disenfranchised socialists

Only having right wing parties that could form a government is dangerous for democracy

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:20 am

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:18 am Im putting my serious hat on now.
All democracies need political parties from all side of politics, or they are faux democracies.

With Starmer taking Labour much further right, people with left wing politics, become politically homeless.

The Tories are very right wing these days, and now Labour is a centre, or centre/right party, democracy isnt being served fully.

We have Lib Dems & Greens, true, but there isnt a non revolutionary socialist party now, so millions are politically homeless.

If a new left wing movement was formed, with people like Corbyn, Williamson, Burgeon, Lewis, Pidcock,etc, I would vote for that party, and I suspect, so would a lot of other disenfranchised socialists

Only having right wing parties that could form a government is dangerous for democracy

Yes yes comeon' ,
but what is your view on
THOR'S ANTI -SEMETIC POST on David Milliband ?

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:18 am Corbyn, Williamson, Burgeon, Lewis, Pidcock

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:30 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:20 am

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:18 am Im putting my serious hat on now.
All democracies need political parties from all side of politics, or they are faux democracies.

With Starmer taking Labour much further right, people with left wing politics, become politically homeless.

The Tories are very right wing these days, and now Labour is a centre, or centre/right party, democracy isnt being served fully.

We have Lib Dems & Greens, true, but there isnt a non revolutionary socialist party now, so millions are politically homeless.

If a new left wing movement was formed, with people like Corbyn, Williamson, Burgeon, Lewis, Pidcock,etc, I would vote for that party, and I suspect, so would a lot of other disenfranchised socialists

Only having right wing parties that could form a government is dangerous for democracy

Yes yes comeon' ,
but what is your view on
THOR'S ANTI -SEMETIC POST on David Milliband ?

Just found Thors post. although I think Thor has been posting nonsense for the last few days, im not going to accuse him of anti-Semitiism . In his post he doesn't mention anything about David Miliband being Jewish, so how can it be anti-Semitic?
Theres too many people going around accusing others of anti-Semitism, these days.....its being used as a weapon and thats wrong.
Sorry mate

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:06 am Chris williamson calls for a new party to be formed possibly called “old labour” and corbyn hard left backers vow to make it happen.

So that’s labour’s vote split, Tories get another 5 years.

So max who will you vote for?
Hotdogs with his privately educated children who will you vote for?
EU10 who will you vote for?
Dis who will you vote for?
Coyos who will you vote for?
Donut you’ll march back to the Torres right?

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:08 am

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:06 am Chris williamson calls for a new party to be formed possibly called “old labour” and corbyn hard left backers vow to make it happen.

So that’s labour’s vote split, Tories get another 5 years.

So max who will you vote for?
Hotdogs with his privately educated children who will you vote for?
EU10 who will you vote for?
Dis who will you vote for?
Coyos who will you vote for?
Donut you’ll march back to the Torres right?

What have you got against private schools?

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:34 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:08 am

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:06 am Chris williamson calls for a new party to be formed possibly called “old labour” and corbyn hard left backers vow to make it happen.

So that’s labour’s vote split, Tories get another 5 years.

So max who will you vote for?
Hotdogs with his privately educated children who will you vote for?
EU10 who will you vote for?
Dis who will you vote for?
Coyos who will you vote for?
Donut you’ll march back to the Torres right?

What have you got against private schools?

Nothing.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:07 pm Of course i don’t, you absolute fud.

But regardless, that’s totally irrelevant to anything.

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:21 pm Tuffers, you're unfair to call Thor out as an anti-semite because of that post. He was using it to have a dig at Labour/Labour voters (you're still wrong on the money making thing, Thor, your point just makes zero sense) but its not right to call someone a racist for a comment you know isn't racist, we need to be better than that.

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:21 pm Tuffers, you're unfair to call Thor out as an anti-semite because of that post. He was using it to have a dig at Labour/Labour voters (you're still wrong on the money making thing, Thor, your point just makes zero sense) but its not right to call someone a racist for a comment you know isn't racist, we need to be better than that.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:45 pm Tuffers my point was aimed at an ex Labour man earning a million quid. Lefties don't like people earning good sums of money so was intrigued how the lefties on here would perceive it.

Nothing about the man or his religion. You sir need to wobble you're head.

Just for the record I am happy for everyone else to earn whatever they can and as a tory supporter for years I do believe in a free market economy. However, as I've said on here before I want more social justice for people and a spreading of the wealth around to more people. As I've been fortunate enough to retire in my mid forties I realised the power that I cam bring to helping others and its a path I'm committed to.

So earn all you can while you can. I won't be envious or jealous its just a shame that lefties do get either or both of those emotions where money making is concerned.

Withdraw your accusation please, its wrong, its rude and down right disrespectful.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:10 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:07 pm Of course i don’t, you absolute fud.

But regardless, that’s totally irrelevant to anything.

I often find that the more aggressively someone denies something the truer it is. This is one such case, the bad language and reference to ladies parts is the indicator here.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:14 pm Max I’d hazard a guess he is a Tory card carrying member of his local constituency.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:13 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:10 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:07 pm Of course i don’t, you absolute fud.

But regardless, that’s totally irrelevant to anything.

I often find that the more aggressively someone denies something the truer it is. This is one such case, the bad language and reference to ladies parts is the indicator here.

Disagree.

Sometimes you just have to call a fud a fud.