Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:44 am
We’ll never know.
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Looking at the data, at 95% confidence the percentage range goes from 0.17% to 0.41%. That in the worst case extrapolates to 278,000 infections in Great Britain during the two weeks to 10 May and, going by the estimated death rate of 1%, 2,788 estimated deaths. Will compare that to the actual deaths total in the whole of Great Britain.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:02 pmYep, that's right - it's the two weeks to 10 May. But if the death rate is truly around the 1% mark of those infected then that means approx 2k deaths in the past two weeks. Need to cross reference that.faldO wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 5:58 pmI thought the same when I first read it, because it would also mean a very large death rate.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 5:42 pm ONS survey data reports that 0.27% of respondents have been infected with Covid-19. That's a miniscule percentage which, based on a rounded population of 68million, extrapolates to 204k people in Great Britain. I've calculated that based on 0.3% and caveat this by highlighting that I'm aware that the confidence range will likely be a bit more than +/- 0.03 and the sample size is still very very low.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52662066
But I think it is a survey of the number of people estimated to HAVE it over a period of 2 weeks up to the point of end of survey 10th May, rather than HAVE HAD it.
Sample size is tiny though in the grand scheme and not sure of how it has been sampled (presumably nat rep, but how nat rep can you really be at 11k for something this serious). Think we'd need 68k minimum sample and ideally around 350k before we can look at infection proportion. Also cannot work out the confidence range as I can't see any way of working out the standard deviation without the ONS making this data available.
Whose actions and inactions have caused thousands of deaths.NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 11:25 am The decision to force air passengers into quarantine when they arrive in the UK “doesn’t make sense” at this stage of the coronavirus pandemic, a senior government adviser has told the Guardian, piling pressure on ministers to explain the scientific basis for their border policies.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... viser-says
What an utterly clueless, incompetent Tory Govt.
It's actually quite amusing reading your progression on this threadNuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:30 am At last, some common sense:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... eople.html
If the mayor won't provide them for his own staff, fat chance of him doing it for the public. His behaviour and motives during this crisis have been questionable to say the least.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 12:30 pm Would be good to see TFL handing out face masks to those who can't afford or source their own, especially during busy periods.
The conditions of the bailout have nothing to do with the fact that TFL is a loss-making business.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 1:34 pm Basically, tfl is on the brink of bankruptcy, and they've had to go cap in hand to the government for a bailout.
The Government has put certain conditions in place before they would give this money, so to blame Khan is unfair and plain wrong.....blame the Tory government.....its them thats made these conditions
That's alright though because you told us it was just fluNuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 1:34 pm The government just made a decision which will mean coronavirus is never eradicated in the UK.
Boris Johnson is effectively going to cull rough sleepers, says Fleet Street Fox. And rough sleeping is about to rocket:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-22032813
Evil, sick, inhumane Tory Scum.
Yeps some can see Labour and their representatives doing no wrong quite literally wearing rose tinted specs.faldO wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 1:59 pmThe conditions of the bailout have nothing to do with the fact that TFL is a loss-making business.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 1:34 pm Basically, tfl is on the brink of bankruptcy, and they've had to go cap in hand to the government for a bailout.
The Government has put certain conditions in place before they would give this money, so to blame Khan is unfair and plain wrong.....blame the Tory government.....its them thats made these conditions
TFL have made some bizarre decisions during this pandemic, some mentioned above, and others like rather than put proper protection on buses for their drivers they decided to not collect any fares to "avoid passengers approaching the driver". How difficult would it be to put measures in place to secure the driver's compartment, which would have been paid for over and over again by now.
Blaming the Tory government for TFL's woes is unfair and plain wrong.
Spoken like a true Tory!faldO wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 1:59 pmThe conditions of the bailout have nothing to do with the fact that TFL is a loss-making business.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 1:34 pm Basically, tfl is on the brink of bankruptcy, and they've had to go cap in hand to the government for a bailout.
The Government has put certain conditions in place before they would give this money, so to blame Khan is unfair and plain wrong.....blame the Tory government.....its them thats made these conditions
TFL have made some bizarre decisions during this pandemic, some mentioned above, and others like rather than put proper protection on buses for their drivers they decided to not collect any fares to "avoid passengers approaching the driver". How difficult would it be to put measures in place to secure the driver's compartment, which would have been paid for over and over again by now.
Blaming the Tory government for TFL's woes is unfair and plain wrong.
He also fails to mention or highlight all of the people who were offered permanent places to live. Proper to this crisis this would not have happened, but now they have a permanent residence which is to be applauded. If the numbers they quote is represented across the country then a massive homeless population had been re-housed.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 2:04 pmThat's alright though because you told us it was just fluNuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 1:34 pm The government just made a decision which will mean coronavirus is never eradicated in the UK.
Boris Johnson is effectively going to cull rough sleepers, says Fleet Street Fox. And rough sleeping is about to rocket:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-22032813
Evil, sick, inhumane Tory Scum.
Your comments and smilie reveal the true motives here - political. Nothing to do with putting children's education first or finding a way forwards in a constructive manner.NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 3:16 pm 'No doubt we cannot reopen schools' by June 1 says council:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/b ... n=sharebar
Nice one Liverpool.
Up yours Johnson.......you gormless Tory oaf!
I was going to say Gilso so .......