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Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:43 pm
by Thor
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:52 pm
Oh definitely. There's no way anyone other than a "safe pair of hands" is ever getting anywhere near the leadership of any mainstream political party in the UK ever again.
And by "they", I am referring to pretty much all other factions with the Labour party which are opposed to Corbyn and his supporters. Starmer was just waiting for an excuse to take this action.
Kier has not taken any action, the general secretary has.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:44 pm
by tuffers#1
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:41 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:24 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:18 pm
I definitely have not got what I want. I want a strong, decent Labour Party that can compete at general elections. What I’ve got is a shambles of a party that will take ages to become a serious option on Election Day.
I’m just glad the Corbyn nightmare is finally coming to an end.
You do remember labour had 2 parties to fight & the stories only had 1 .
Fadje & his brexit party made sure of that .
Hardly a free & air election to go on regardless of who led them
Deluded
Yes Thory you are .
Re: Labour Watc
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:47 pm
by Thor
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:03 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:53 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:37 am
Dont worry.Sir Kier will sort it !
Whats funny is that the wet lettuce that is kier sat on labours from bench for quite a while and never said anything, never challenged steptoe once. I’d say he’s complicit in it as well or at best a dam hypocrite.
Oh thory , that wet lettuce destroys the clown in number 10 every week
During pmq's .
As Corbyn wasnt personally named in the findings
He could & should of left any statement untill monday ..
after discussions with the party leadership now
Hence why he was suspended for denying parts of the report .
Therfore the Labour Party are putting there house in order .
No messing about with live interviews in Rose Garden by Civil Servants etc
They could have and should have put their house in order in any of the days of the last five years. Not acceptable Tuffers I’m afraid.
Re: Labour Watc
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:48 pm
by Thor
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:03 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:53 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:37 am
Dont worry.Sir Kier will sort it !
Whats funny is that the wet lettuce that is kier sat on labours from bench for quite a while and never said anything, never challenged steptoe once. I’d say he’s complicit in it as well or at best a dam hypocrite.
Oh thory , that wet lettuce destroys the clown in number 10 every week
During pmq's .
As Corbyn wasnt personally named in the findings
He could & should of left any statement untill monday ..
after discussions with the party leadership now
Hence why he was suspended for denying parts of the report .
Therfore the Labour Party are putting there house in order .
No messing about with live interviews in Rose Garden by Civil Servants etc
Sorry I do beleive the words used were “interference from the leadership”, if that’s not corbyn who is it then? That was one of the key points raised actually.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:50 pm
by PoliticOs
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:38 pm
PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:23 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:21 pm
I wonder how many of you labour supporters actually are embarrassed now by voting for such a party?
Why do you hate disabled people so, so much?
Please tell me how I hate disabled people?
By voting for a party that has such a shameful record on disability rights and has presided over the mess the DWP has made of the lives of disabled people, including the country being damned by (ironically) a EHRC report. If you vote for them, you are complicit.
That's how it works, right? Labour voters are all racists, Tory voters all hate disabled people/children/homeless/whatever?
Re: Labour Watc
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:52 pm
by Thor
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:21 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:53 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:37 am
Dont worry.Sir Kier will sort it !
Whats funny is that the wet lettuce that is kier sat on labours from bench for quite a while and never said anything, never challenged steptoe once. I’d say he’s complicit in it as well or at best a dam hypocrite.
He did internally, the factions over how Labour handled the crisis are well known and they don't fall on left vs right lines. McDonnell wanted Corbyn to adopt the IHRA definition of antisemitism because he thought the furore around it was killing Labour's ability to sell its programme.
It's worth reiterating that the leader of the Tory party is on record over and over again making racist, homophobic and sexist comments. It's a depressing indictment of standards that ECHR aren't looking into Islamophobia in the Tory party, which is well established by this point. Seems incredibly fake to get wound up by Labour's issues and to turn a blind eye to the Tory party's (and vice versa).
Actually I have commented on that very subject previously and condemned it. It is not acceptable to behave in such a manner and it doesn’t matter what person or party said it. We can only standby and watch whilst others hold the MP’s etc to account, again as I’ve said on here before all they care about is themselves and stuff the normal man, women or child. It’s a disgrace what goes on in the Palace of Westminster.
Re: Labour Watc
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:53 pm
by tuffers#1
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:47 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:03 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:53 pm
Whats funny is that the wet lettuce that is kier sat on labours from bench for quite a while and never said anything, never challenged steptoe once. I’d say he’s complicit in it as well or at best a dam hypocrite.
Oh thory , that wet lettuce destroys the clown in number 10 every week
During pmq's .
As Corbyn wasnt personally named in the findings
He could & should of left any statement untill monday ..
after discussions with the party leadership now
Hence why he was suspended for denying parts of the report .
Therfore the Labour Party are putting there house in order .
No messing about with live interviews in Rose Garden by Civil Servants etc
They could have and should have put their house in order in any of the days of the last five years. Not acceptable Tuffers I’m afraid.
Well better to do it late than never do it at all
Like the Story Party or the Fadges parties !
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:58 pm
by Thor
PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:50 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:38 pm
PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:23 pm
Why do you hate disabled people so, so much?
Please tell me how I hate disabled people?
By voting for a party that has such a shameful record on disability rights and has presided over the mess the DWP has made of the lives of disabled people, including the country being damned by (ironically) a EHRC report. If you vote for them, you are complicit.
That's how it works, right? Labour voters are all racists, Tory voters all hate disabled people/children/homeless/whatever?
Oh OK that’s how it works does it? My dad was disabled and proper disabled as well and he voted Tory so did he hate disabled people? Poor point to be making I’m afraid.
Check back through my posts and you’ll see that I said I wasn’t voting or would vote green.
It was said just last week that child poverty started under Blair and has got worse since. Would you then suggest that voting labour means you hate children?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:01 pm
by Thor
So let’s examine Chakrabarty and her inquiry into anti semetisim in the Labour Party. Now she concluded that there was no case to answer on any point.
Shouldn’t she now step down due to the whitewash of the issue inside of the Labour Party?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:50 pm
by Disoriented
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:43 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:52 pm
Oh definitely. There's no way anyone other than a "safe pair of hands" is ever getting anywhere near the leadership of any mainstream political party in the UK ever again.
And by "they", I am referring to pretty much all other factions with the Labour party which are opposed to Corbyn and his supporters. Starmer was just waiting for an excuse to take this action.
Kier has not taken any action, the general secretary has.
He controls that.
What insight!
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:57 pm
by Thor
No he was made aware of it, but has zero influence in what decisions that person makes. Fact.
Bit like his bike crash, he hurt the person, pissed off and then lied that he’d spoken to the police.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:05 pm
by Disoriented
From the BBC:
Mr Corbyn reacted to his suspension on Twitter, writing: "I will strongly contest the political intervention to suspend me. I've made absolutely clear those who deny there has been an anti-Semitism problem in the Labour Party are wrong.”
It should read, “I will strongly contest the rightful intervention to suspend me. I’ve made absolutely clear that those who say there has been an anti-semitism problem in the Labour Party are wrong.”
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:05 pm
by Disoriented
The usual suspects have gone very quiet. Perhaps they are working up an anti-Zionist theory to explain all of this.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:22 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:49 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:04 pm
My partner, has just cancelled her direct debit, and left the Labour party, after being a member for 52 years.
She's in floods of tears at this moment, after the disgusting treatment of Jeremy Corbyn.
What a f*cking stitch up this all is.
52 years all for nowt.
“Floods of tears”
I think you and your partner need to be less invested in other people’s lives. Very unhealthy to obsess over things you have no control over
Nice post.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:24 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:04 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:02 pm
It’s good that Kier has responded to this report so promptly and in such strong terms.
He did no such thing, stop dreaming. He is not responsible for suspending corbyn that is the responsibility of the general secretary and the party. At least get your facts rights.
I think you've missed my point, thory boy.
He has responded to the publication of this report very promptly and in very strong terms.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:26 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:38 pm
PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:23 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:21 pm
I wonder how many of you labour supporters actually are embarrassed now by voting for such a party?
Why do you hate disabled people so, so much?
Please tell me how I hate disabled people?
With a passion?
A vengeance?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:27 pm
by E10EU
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:28 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:58 pm
Oh OK that’s how it works does it? My dad was disabled and proper disabled as well and he voted Tory so did he hate disabled people? Poor point to be making I’m afraid.
Explains a lot, thory boy.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:29 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:58 pm
It was said just last week that child poverty started under Blair and has got worse since. W
Now I'm all for hating on Blair but to suggest he created child poverty is a bit dim.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:31 pm
by Stowaway
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:58 pm
PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:50 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:38 pm
Please tell me how I hate disabled people?
By voting for a party that has such a shameful record on disability rights and has presided over the mess the DWP has made of the lives of disabled people, including the country being damned by (ironically) a EHRC report. If you vote for them, you are complicit.
That's how it works, right? Labour voters are all racists, Tory voters all hate disabled people/children/homeless/whatever?
Oh OK that’s how it works does it? My dad was disabled and proper disabled as well
More of your usual bullshit, I don’t doubt
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:36 pm
by Millennial Snowflake
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:22 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:49 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:04 pm
My partner, has just cancelled her direct debit, and left the Labour party, after being a member for 52 years.
She's in floods of tears at this moment, after the disgusting treatment of Jeremy Corbyn.
What a f*cking stitch up this all is.
52 years all for nowt.
“Floods of tears”
I think you and your partner need to be less invested in other people’s lives. Very unhealthy to obsess over things you have no control over
Nice post.
Thanks mate
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:37 pm
by PoliticOs
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:58 pm
PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:50 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:38 pm
Please tell me how I hate disabled people?
By voting for a party that has such a shameful record on disability rights and has presided over the mess the DWP has made of the lives of disabled people, including the country being damned by (ironically) a EHRC report. If you vote for them, you are complicit.
That's how it works, right? Labour voters are all racists, Tory voters all hate disabled people/children/homeless/whatever?
Oh OK that’s how it works does it? My dad was disabled and proper disabled as well and he voted Tory so did he hate disabled people? Poor point to be making I’m afraid.
Check back through my posts and you’ll see that I said I wasn’t voting or would vote green.
It was said just last week that child poverty started under Blair and has got worse since. Would you then suggest that voting labour means you hate children?
No, that's NOT how it works at all. That is exactly the point. You, he, anyone that votes for them may just genuinely be conservative in their values and feel they are best. I wholly disagree but it doesn't mean I can say you agree with every part or stand for everything they do. Much as you're wrong to think everyone that voted Labour is an antisemite or complicit. (Although I'd agree if you think many held their noses to get the Tories out and I'd make you right).
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:40 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:36 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:22 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:49 pm
“Floods of tears”
I think you and your partner need to be less invested in other people’s lives. Very unhealthy to obsess over things you have no control over
Nice post.
Thanks mate
It was sarcasm mate, I actually think you're a ****.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:41 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:41 pm
by Millennial Snowflake
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:40 pm
It was sarcasm mate, I actually think you're a ****.
Thanks mate
