Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Put simply, today marks the start of the Second Wave and it will be worse than the First.

Whats your thinking behind that?

I'm not sure what the governments strategy is anymore.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:30 am Whats your thinking behind that?

I'm not sure what the governments strategy is anymore.

Who is indeed.

Amazing that the self imposed magic number of 100,000 tests was hit again on the day our dear leader gave his address before falling back down again, it's almost as if they deliberately fiddle the numbers.

We had our first batch of results back from a round of testing of people who were asymptomatic but had been in contact with someone who had tested positive. Three of the seven came back positive, it took 9 days from the test to actually get the results back because viruses are well known to take bank holiday weekends off, which means they are all fine but we now have to worry about the people they have been in contact with. Unfortunately it seems we aren't entitled to a second round of testing.

Every day brings a new initiative on testing that no one seems to be clear on, call two different people and get two different answers pointing you in a different direction. Badly designed on line 'portals' springing up all over the place which automatically to reject me because we are registered as providing support for people with learning disabilities not dementia or over 65's because obviously people with learning disabilities can't be over 65 or have dementia (actually massively more likely to have dementia early, but never mind).

Absolute f*cking shambles.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 11:03 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:13 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 7:43 pm What a clusterfcuk of confusion, delivered by an absolute imbercile.

How are people supposed to return to work in 12 hours time; with no public transport and without employers having the first idea of the safety regulations required? It's complete and utter madness.

This return to work message is primarily about one thing........getting Furlough payments down. Did people really believe "whatever it takes" Sunak?

It is abundantly clear that this decision is simply about money; and sod all to do about people's lives.

WRONG!!!!

Furlough extended till October. Better go eat some humble pie me thinks.

I don't eat pastry; it's ghastly, fattening food.

However, I'm man enough to say I got that one completely wrong Thor.

Pity we can't get Sunak over to our side........he is demonstrating true Socialist principles!

Just wait till you get hit by the income tax and VAT rises to pay for this then I bet people won't be so happy.

personally think they need to keep it for some industries but not all as they'll be some companies who take the piss with it.

Nah mate, the billionaires and bankers will pay

Just read this in Guardian comments section

"Exactly. Spiegelhalter said on Andrew Marr:
10m under-15s in the UK- number of deaths? 2. And they had underlying mortality conditions.
17m under-25s in the UK- number of deaths? 26. And they had underlying mortality conditions.
91% of all deaths with ~3 comorbidities. Average age of all deaths: 80."

If the average age of all deaths is 80, the UK life expectancy is 81

I hope that all the people I've seen in the news today; crowds using London Transport WITHOUT even basic masks; clap twice as hard tomorrow night for the lives of NHS and Transport Workers whose lives they are risking.

Complete and utter selfish, idiotic arseholes!

What is the solution NuneatonO?

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:34 am I hope that all the people I've seen in the news today; crowds using London Transport WITHOUT even basic masks; clap twice as hard tomorrow night for the lives of NHS and Transport Workers whose lives they are risking.

Complete and utter selfish, idiotic arseholes!

Don't be so hard on them - they're just displaying British common sense.

Where does one find masks? I have to commute in and around London every day

I use a folded bandana, with elastic bands over the ears (mine, not the bandana's). It works just fine.

I use a nappy. They have various layers. Velcro. Can wrap them round your face and breathe, just about.

I wear my wifes knickers as a face mask.

I might even pop out later.

Tom Chance wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 12:05 pm I wear my wifes knickers as a face mask.

I might even pop out later.

I could make several masks out of a pair of my wife's knickers

So could I.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 12:53 pmSo could I.

Why do you have his wife's knickers ?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:37 am What is the solution NuneatonO?

I'd like to tell you - but as this is the Coronavirus thread, you might deem it too political.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:34 am I hope that all the people I've seen in the news today; crowds using London Transport WITHOUT even basic masks; clap twice as hard tomorrow night for the lives of NHS and Transport Workers whose lives they are risking.

Complete and utter selfish, idiotic arseholes!

Excellent. Blaming the working classes for the next spike. Just what Cummings and Johnson want.

Sun says pay freeze for public sector workers including nurses.sensationalism journalism I hope.most unlike the sun surely

RedO wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 2:11 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:34 am I hope that all the people I've seen in the news today; crowds using London Transport WITHOUT even basic masks; clap twice as hard tomorrow night for the lives of NHS and Transport Workers whose lives they are risking.

Complete and utter selfish, idiotic arseholes!

Excellent. Blaming the working classes for the next spike. Just what Cummings and Johnson want.

Can we all please stop using the term "spike" as a negative?

But your sentiment is spot on - it's clear that the intention is to get lots of pics of crowded tubes and buses so we can all blame the people on them.

We all know that the real culprits are the people who don't clap loud enough on a Thursday night - they should be burned out of their houses (and it won't be long before that happens, I'm sure)

StillSpike wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 3:20 pm

We all know that the real culprits are the people who don't clap loud enough on a Thursday night - they should be burned out of their houses (and it won't be long before that happens, I'm sure)

RedO wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 2:11 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:34 am I hope that all the people I've seen in the news today; crowds using London Transport WITHOUT even basic masks; clap twice as hard tomorrow night for the lives of NHS and Transport Workers whose lives they are risking.

Complete and utter selfish, idiotic arseholes!

Excellent. Blaming the working classes for the next spike. Just what Cummings and Johnson want.

The fact is though that these arseholes will indeed be as equally to blame for any spike.

Whether they are working class or not, doesn't even come into it.