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slacker wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:50 am My personal view is not much should change of restrictions be relaxed this month, but you can sense there's more traffic and people about the last week than before, so I guess the will to keep lockdown is ebbing away in some people.

It doesn't help when there's mixed messages leaked from the Govt, and there's always some global evidence the lockdown isn't essential (e.g. sweden), and sectors of the economy are tanking, so I get it's a difficult call.

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 8:38 am Any lifting of restrictions has more to do with our dear leader's desperation to do something around VE day than it does with any scientific evidence. I'm moving heavy things out of arms reach to protect the TV when he says it's the end of the beginning.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:25 am There’s obviously a part of me that wants to be able to do SOMETHING aside from be at home and most of the people at work, as well as friends who are of similar age are fairly desperate for easing but realistic that it’s not really the time.

Not much has changed. It’s difficult. As I argued a month ago, it’s a big ask to enforce such a big change to every day lives. But you just HAVE to look at the long term. As tempting as it seems right now, like opening a Xmas present when you are 6 on Xmas eve, it’s a short term view and actually waiting a bit isn’t really gonna hurt and will give you a lot more benefits long term.

Imagine if it eases and we have to do this all again in June until September

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 8:05 am Who here does not want lockdown lifted?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:15 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:25 am There’s obviously a part of me that wants to be able to do SOMETHING aside from be at home and most of the people at work, as well as friends who are of similar age are fairly desperate for easing but realistic that it’s not really the time.

Not much has changed. It’s difficult. As I argued a month ago, it’s a big ask to enforce such a big change to every day lives. But you just HAVE to look at the long term. As tempting as it seems right now, like opening a Xmas present when you are 6 on Xmas eve, it’s a short term view and actually waiting a bit isn’t really gonna hurt and will give you a lot more benefits long term.

Imagine if it eases and we have to do this all again in June until September

Hospital deaths are down to almost 200 a day, in about a fortnight there will be barely any deaths if this trajectory continues. The nightingale hospitals are empty. At what point would you ease things?

Every week on lockdown will probably mean an additional year of austerity.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:15 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:25 am There’s obviously a part of me that wants to be able to do SOMETHING aside from be at home and most of the people at work, as well as friends who are of similar age are fairly desperate for easing but realistic that it’s not really the time.

Not much has changed. It’s difficult. As I argued a month ago, it’s a big ask to enforce such a big change to every day lives. But you just HAVE to look at the long term. As tempting as it seems right now, like opening a Xmas present when you are 6 on Xmas eve, it’s a short term view and actually waiting a bit isn’t really gonna hurt and will give you a lot more benefits long term.

Imagine if it eases and we have to do this all again in June until September

Hospital deaths are down to almost 200 a day, in about a fortnight there will be barely any deaths if this trajectory continues. The nightingale hospitals are empty. At what point would you ease things?

Every week on lockdown will probably mean an additional year of austerity.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:15 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:25 am There’s obviously a part of me that wants to be able to do SOMETHING aside from be at home and most of the people at work, as well as friends who are of similar age are fairly desperate for easing but realistic that it’s not really the time.

Not much has changed. It’s difficult. As I argued a month ago, it’s a big ask to enforce such a big change to every day lives. But you just HAVE to look at the long term. As tempting as it seems right now, like opening a Xmas present when you are 6 on Xmas eve, it’s a short term view and actually waiting a bit isn’t really gonna hurt and will give you a lot more benefits long term.

Imagine if it eases and we have to do this all again in June until September

Every week on lockdown will probably mean an additional year of austerity.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 12:44 pm Pure guesswork. Does it seem unrealistic?

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 12:15 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:15 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:25 am There’s obviously a part of me that wants to be able to do SOMETHING aside from be at home and most of the people at work, as well as friends who are of similar age are fairly desperate for easing but realistic that it’s not really the time.

Not much has changed. It’s difficult. As I argued a month ago, it’s a big ask to enforce such a big change to every day lives. But you just HAVE to look at the long term. As tempting as it seems right now, like opening a Xmas present when you are 6 on Xmas eve, it’s a short term view and actually waiting a bit isn’t really gonna hurt and will give you a lot more benefits long term.

Imagine if it eases and we have to do this all again in June until September

Hospital deaths are down to almost 200 a day, in about a fortnight there will be barely any deaths if this trajectory continues. The nightingale hospitals are empty. At what point would you ease things?

Every week on lockdown will probably mean an additional year of austerity.

Why ignore other deaths? Definitely headed in the right direction but BECAUSE of lockdown. As soon as you lift it those numbers go up again.

There’s certainly an argument for austerity and financial crashes causing more deaths but as it stands, f*** the economy. It’ll be alright if there’s another month lockdown.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 1:00 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 12:15 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:15 am
Hospital deaths are down to almost 200 a day, in about a fortnight there will be barely any deaths if this trajectory continues. The nightingale hospitals are empty. At what point would you ease things?

Every week on lockdown will probably mean an additional year of austerity.

Why ignore other deaths? Definitely headed in the right direction but BECAUSE of lockdown. As soon as you lift it those numbers go up again.

There’s certainly an argument for austerity and financial crashes causing more deaths but as it stands, f*** the economy. It’ll be alright if there’s another month lockdown.

I haven't been following the other deaths, why aren't these people in hospitals?

The numbers infected will likely go up, they have to keep it manageable and those at serious risk should continue to isolate so that deaths can be kept down.

Austerity will mean misery for millions in all sorts of ways for years.