Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Admin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:15 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:11 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:09 pm I'm sort of at a loss as to what the club should have done differently.

They've clearly got to act on an allegation of this nature and decided to suspend attendance whilst an investigation is ongoing. As soon as that investigation has confirmed there's no charges, they've reinstated his season ticket. Not sure why the club would allow someone to continue attending whilst an investigation is ongoing.

Col U we're straight out of the blocks condemning what had allegedly happened. For Orient to act any differently in response would look pretty poor.

He wants his superfan ego massaged by the club

I think you're experienced in this sort of thing than I am Pammy having worked for the police (apols if i'm mistaken) - why would the police even bother to interview him if the player's statement confirms no racist incident took place?

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:24 pm What a sorry state of affairs - from beginning to end. Who emerges with any credit?
Clubs - No.
The player concerned - No.
Matt R***r - if anybody does. (At least he puts his heart and soul into supporting the Club!)

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:19 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:15 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:11 pm

He wants his superfan ego massaged by the club

I think you're experienced in this sort of thing than I am Pammy having worked for the police (apols if i'm mistaken) - why would the police even bother to interview him if the player's statement confirms no racist incident took place?

Car park security is not under the Mets jurisdiction.

Admin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:15 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:11 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:09 pm I'm sort of at a loss as to what the club should have done differently.

They've clearly got to act on an allegation of this nature and decided to suspend attendance whilst an investigation is ongoing. As soon as that investigation has confirmed there's no charges, they've reinstated his season ticket. Not sure why the club would allow someone to continue attending whilst an investigation is ongoing.

Col U we're straight out of the blocks condemning what had allegedly happened. For Orient to act any differently in response would look pretty poor.

He wants his superfan ego massaged by the club

I think you're experienced in this sort of thing than I am Pammy having worked for the police (apols if i'm mistaken) - why would the police even bother to interview him if the player's statement confirms no racist incident took place?

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:36 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:15 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:11 pm

He wants his superfan ego massaged by the club

I think you're experienced in this sort of thing than I am Pammy having worked for the police (apols if i'm mistaken) - why would the police even bother to interview him if the player's statement confirms no racist incident took place?

I'm a manager of a multi-storey car park so don't take anything I say as speaking from experience.

I also wouldn't like to second guess anything based on having no facts in front of me and only the suspects point of view.

On a more general point, there's multiple public order offences under the same act he was arrested for, but they're not generally enforced at football for some reason.

Does strike me odd that people (again generally not OFF specific) can run up to an oppositions bench and scream "fu*k off you fat ugly cu*t" or similar to their face and it's just deemed part and parcel of a matchday whereas if it was in pretty much any other public setting it'd be viewed differently.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:40 pm The use of comic sans has gotten to me.

Tbf to the bloke, a lot of what he writes is true. But the constant abuse of the opposition bench has to stop. Hopefully he’s realised this and he can continue to support his club in a more mature way.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:40 pm The use of comic sans has gotten to me.

Tbf to the bloke, a lot of what he writes is true. But the constant abuse of the opposition bench has to stop. Hopefully he’s realised this and he can continue to support his club in a more mature way.

NavarinO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:56 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:40 pm The use of comic sans has gotten to me.

Tbf to the bloke, a lot of what he writes is true. But the constant abuse of the opposition bench has to stop. Hopefully he’s realised this and he can continue to support his club in a more mature way.

That's patronising to the point of being offensive

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:13 pm In his mind, he thinks his SuperFan status means the club should have backed him unequivocally and known he couldn’t possibly be guilty of dishing out racist abuse to an opposition player (despite his history of dishing out homophobic abuse to homosexual Orient fans like CEB on the inter web and despite his history of dishing out non specific abuse to opposition players and staff in person).

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:16 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:13 pm In his mind, he thinks his SuperFan status means the club should have backed him unequivocally and known he couldn’t possibly be guilty of dishing out racist abuse to an opposition player (despite his history of dishing out homophobic abuse to homosexual Orient fans like CEB on the inter web and despite his history of dishing out non specific abuse to opposition players and staff in person).

I think this is it. Because he has got away with so much for so long he's struggling with the fact that the club treated him in the same way as a normal punter who is accountable for their actions rather than as the superfan he thinks he is.

He always had "fame" and people pandering to him as fanzine editor, founder of a pointless campaign and crap facebook group with his flock, LOFFT responsibilities etc. He couldn't accept being challenged on past messageboards, blamed everyone but himself and could comfort his ego with his involvement in the aforementioned. But now the club see him as a liability he cannot brush that off in the same way or put it down to "the usual suspects". And that has clearly hurt him a lot.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:26 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:16 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:13 pm In his mind, he thinks his SuperFan status means the club should have backed him unequivocally and known he couldn’t possibly be guilty of dishing out racist abuse to an opposition player (despite his history of dishing out homophobic abuse to homosexual Orient fans like CEB on the inter web and despite his history of dishing out non specific abuse to opposition players and staff in person).

I think this is it. Because he has got away with so much for so long he's struggling with the fact that the club treated him in the same way as a normal punter who is accountable for their actions rather than as the superfan he thinks he is.

He always had "fame" and people pandering to him as fanzine editor, founder of a pointless campaign and crap facebook group with his flock, LOFFT responsibilities etc. He couldn't accept being challenged on past messageboards, blamed everyone but himself and could comfort his ego with his involvement in the aforementioned. But now the club see him as a liability he cannot brush that off in the same way or put it down to "the usual suspects". And that has clearly hurt him a lot.

Its not only hurt him but his old mans ashes are spinning in their shallow grave under the Brisbane Road pitch. That is how bad it is.

Admin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:42 pm Reproduced from STUFO


Off1.jpg
Off2.jpg
Off3.jpg

I've only read it quickly but is he saying the player involved has made 3 allegations this season?

Also don't get the bit about Col U not backing their player - I thought they were first out of the blocks condemning what had allegedly happened?

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:40 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:26 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:16 pm

I think this is it. Because he has got away with so much for so long he's struggling with the fact that the club treated him in the same way as a normal punter who is accountable for their actions rather than as the superfan he thinks he is.

He always had "fame" and people pandering to him as fanzine editor, founder of a pointless campaign and crap facebook group with his flock, LOFFT responsibilities etc. He couldn't accept being challenged on past messageboards, blamed everyone but himself and could comfort his ego with his involvement in the aforementioned. But now the club see him as a liability he cannot brush that off in the same way or put it down to "the usual suspects". And that has clearly hurt him a lot.

Its not only hurt him but his old mans ashes are spinning in their shallow grave under the Brisbane Road pitch. That is how bad it is.

Unnecessary.

NavarinO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:56 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:40 pm The use of comic sans has gotten to me.

Tbf to the bloke, a lot of what he writes is true. But the constant abuse of the opposition bench has to stop. Hopefully he’s realised this and he can continue to support his club in a more mature way.

That's patronising to the point of being offensive

slacker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:38 pm A blast some the past, to lighten the mood

BEEA5FAA-A242-4204-9559-9D2ED8F3AFC3.jpeg

slacker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:38 pm A blast some the past, to lighten the mood

BEEA5FAA-A242-4204-9559-9D2ED8F3AFC3.jpeg