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Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:16 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:44 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:06 am
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:01 am
Its neither mean spirited , pathetic , or racist . Its just overcrowded
Alexa, show me some birds eye view images of the English countryside.
Yeah the countryside and green spaces are rubbish.
But I haven’t said the countryside is rubbish.

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:33 pm
by LittleMate
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:06 am
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:01 am
Its neither mean spirited , pathetic , or racist . Its just overcrowded
Alexa, show me some birds eye view images of the English countryside.
England has the largest population density of any western european country. Roughly double that of Germany & Italy, three times that of France.

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:48 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
LittleMate wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:33 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:06 am
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:01 am
Its neither mean spirited , pathetic , or racist . Its just overcrowded
Alexa, show me some birds eye view images of the English countryside.
England has the largest population density of any western european country. Roughly double that of Germany & Italy, three times that of France.
But I haven’t said anything about any other country.

I just said we aren’t overcrowded.

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm
by tuffers#1
LittleMate wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:33 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:06 am
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:01 am
Its neither mean spirited , pathetic , or racist . Its just overcrowded
Alexa, show me some birds eye view images of the English countryside.
England has the largest population density of any western european country. Roughly double that of Germany & Italy, three times that of France.
Build more towns & Cities & roads
create Jobs & spread people out .

Share the Wealth
that was Bodge Johnners tag line wasnt it to win the North ?

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:01 pm
by Long slender neck
Doesn't sound very environmentally friendly.

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:20 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Ooohhh, here comes another hippy.

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:33 pm
by George M
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:48 pm
LittleMate wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:33 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:06 am

Alexa, show me some birds eye view images of the English countryside.
England has the largest population density of any western european country. Roughly double that of Germany & Italy, three times that of France.
But I haven’t said anything about any other country.

I just said we aren’t overcrowded.
So how have you reached that view and to have done so you must have compared our population numbers with similar sized European countries

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:34 pm
by George M
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm
LittleMate wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:33 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:06 am

Alexa, show me some birds eye view images of the English countryside.
England has the largest population density of any western european country. Roughly double that of Germany & Italy, three times that of France.
Build more towns & Cities & roads
create Jobs & spread people out .

Share the Wealth
that was Bodge Johnners tag line wasnt it to win the North ?
Spread people out , yes maybe , but not add more which is what i was replying to

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:35 pm
by George M
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:20 pm Ooohhh, here comes another hippy.
Not sure that being a hippy means anything unless you are stuck in the 60s

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:39 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:34 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm
LittleMate wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:33 pm

England has the largest population density of any western european country. Roughly double that of Germany & Italy, three times that of France.
Build more towns & Cities & roads
create Jobs & spread people out .

Share the Wealth
that was Bodge Johnners tag line wasnt it to win the North ?
Spread people out , yes maybe , but not add more which is what i was replying to
Did you forget to log out & back in again ?

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:48 pm
by George M
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:39 pm
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:34 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm

Build more towns & Cities & roads
create Jobs & spread people out .

Share the Wealth
that was Bodge Johnners tag line wasnt it to win the North ?
Spread people out , yes maybe , but not add more which is what i was replying to
Did you forget to log out & back in again ?

Why ?

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:10 pm
by tuffers#1
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm
LittleMate wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:33 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:06 am

Alexa, show me some birds eye view images of the English countryside.
England has the largest population density of any western european country. Roughly double that of Germany & Italy, three times that of France.
Build more towns & Cities & roads
create Jobs & spread people out .

Share the Wealth
that was Bodge Johnners tag line wasnt it to win the North ?

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:14 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:34 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm
LittleMate wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:33 pm

England has the largest population density of any western european country. Roughly double that of Germany & Italy, three times that of France.
Build more towns & Cities & roads
create Jobs & spread people out .

Share the Wealth
that was Bodge Johnners tag line wasnt it to win the North ?
Spread people out , yes maybe , but not add more which is what i was replying to
Why not?

There’s loads of space to do so.

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:20 pm
by George M
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:14 pm
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:34 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm

Build more towns & Cities & roads
create Jobs & spread people out .

Share the Wealth
that was Bodge Johnners tag line wasnt it to win the North ?
Spread people out , yes maybe , but not add more which is what i was replying to
Why not?

There’s loads of space to do so.
We dont currently produce enough food for the population we have . Therefore , building on farmland is not really a sensible suggestion is it. Or perhaps we should drain all the peat bogs and build on them or cut down Epping Forest and cover that with concrete .

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:38 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Hang on, you said we were over crowded. Now you’re saying the issue is we can’t produce enough food for ourselves?

What really is the issue here?

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:39 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:20 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:14 pm
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:34 pm

Spread people out , yes maybe , but not add more which is what i was replying to
Why not?

There’s loads of space to do so.
We dont currently produce enough food for the population we have . Therefore , building on farmland is not really a sensible suggestion is it. Or perhaps we should drain all the peat bogs and build on them or cut down Epping Forest and cover that with concrete .
I thought Britain was Great ?

Not that great if it cant work out how many seeds it needs to plant to feed the number of people
its not ROCKET SCIENCE

Its Agriculture & Horticulture

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:41 pm
by tuffers#1
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:38 pm Hang on, you said we were over crowded. Now you’re saying the issue is we can’t produce enough food for ourselves?

What really is the issue here?
As per Usual the Right Jump in without a clue as to there plan

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:42 pm
by Max B Gold
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:38 pm Hang on, you said we were over crowded. Now you’re saying the issue is we can’t produce enough food for ourselves?

What really is the issue here?
Over concentration of wealth in the south east leading to high population density and density in general.

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:05 pm
by George M
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:38 pm Hang on, you said we were over crowded. Now you’re saying the issue is we can’t produce enough food for ourselves?

What really is the issue here?
Obviously more people would require more food. Simple maths.
Tell me what your plan is along with your ever growing population

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:08 pm
by George M
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:39 pm
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:20 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:14 pm

Why not?

There’s loads of space to do so.
We dont currently produce enough food for the population we have . Therefore , building on farmland is not really a sensible suggestion is it. Or perhaps we should drain all the peat bogs and build on them or cut down Epping Forest and cover that with concrete .
I thought Britain was Great ?

Not that great if it cant work out how many seeds it needs to plant to feed the number of people
its not ROCKET SCIENCE

Its Agriculture & Horticulture
Unless you want to eat GM food , which is what we are having to do because we have leached our land of nutrients.
We are farming all available land , and where that has stopped , it’s because we won’t pay fair value for our own farmed products

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:14 pm
by George M
Max B Gold wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:42 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:38 pm Hang on, you said we were over crowded. Now you’re saying the issue is we can’t produce enough food for ourselves?

What really is the issue here?
Over concentration of wealth in the south east leading to high population density and density in general.
And any further increase in population will impact the SE no doubt.
But it’s total population I’m talking about. France , for example, has a similar population but is twice the size of the UK .

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:15 pm
by LittleMate
Max B Gold wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:42 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:38 pm Hang on, you said we were over crowded. Now you’re saying the issue is we can’t produce enough food for ourselves?

What really is the issue here?
Over concentration of wealth in the south east leading to high population density and density in general.
That and geography. Human need and greed make people want to be closer to the action. Even Manchester and the industrial north is a bit of a wilderness to mainland Europe by car/lorry - hence the drift towards the closest crossing point.

It does not matter what is done by whatever government - in whatever country. There will always be a concentration of people around the areas capable of generating the most potential wealth.

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:29 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:08 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:39 pm
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:20 pm

We dont currently produce enough food for the population we have . Therefore , building on farmland is not really a sensible suggestion is it. Or perhaps we should drain all the peat bogs and build on them or cut down Epping Forest and cover that with concrete .
I thought Britain was Great ?

Not that great if it cant work out how many seeds it needs to plant to feed the number of people
its not ROCKET SCIENCE

Its Agriculture & Horticulture
Unless you want to eat GM food , which is what we are having to do because we have leached our land of nutrients.
We are farming all available land , and where that has stopped , it’s because we won’t pay fair value for our own farmed products
Isnt GM food what Bodge is asking Jo for ?

"all available land "

arr you quite sure ?

There are 100s of sports pitches up& downt the country not being usrd , there are thousands of miles of national parks not being used , dont talk twaddle about us using all available land .

Raise taxes so we can cover the cost of food production meaning wr can eat cheaply .

Again its Agriculture
Not Rocket Science !

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:46 pm
by George M
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:29 pm
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:08 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:39 pm

I thought Britain was Great ?

Not that great if it cant work out how many seeds it needs to plant to feed the number of people
its not ROCKET SCIENCE

Its Agriculture & Horticulture
Unless you want to eat GM food , which is what we are having to do because we have leached our land of nutrients.
We are farming all available land , and where that has stopped , it’s because we won’t pay fair value for our own farmed products
Isnt GM food what Bidge is askink Jo for ?

"all available land "

arr you quite sure ?

There are 100s of sports pitches up& downt the country not being usrd , there are thousands of miles of national parks not being used , dont talk twaddle about us using all available land .

Raise taxes so we can cover the cost of food production meaning wr can eat cheaply .

Again its Agriculture
Not Rocket Science !
Don’t talk twaddle says the master of twaddle. Do you have any idea of the purpose of national parks. Are you aware of climate change. Do you understand anything about ecology or the environment and how it is all interlinked.
By raising taxes , the only people that would be eating cheaply would be the poor , low end earners. I love that idea

Re: Migrants crossing the channel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:06 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:46 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:29 pm
George wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:08 pm

Unless you want to eat GM food , which is what we are having to do because we have leached our land of nutrients.
We are farming all available land , and where that has stopped , it’s because we won’t pay fair value for our own farmed products
Isnt GM food what Bidge is askink Jo for ?

"all available land "

arr you quite sure ?

There are 100s of sports pitches up& downt the country not being usrd , there are thousands of miles of national parks not being used , dont talk twaddle about us using all available land .

Raise taxes so we can cover the cost of food production meaning wr can eat cheaply .

Again its Agriculture
Not Rocket Science !
Don’t talk twaddle says the master of twaddle. Do you have any idea of the purpose of national parks. Are you aware of climate change. Do you understand anything about ecology or the environment and how it is all interlinked.
By raising taxes , the only people that would be eating cheaply would be the poor , low end earners. I love that idea
of course i understand ecology
My Mums family were farmers
My Dads grandparents were Farmers .

ive never heard a scientist yet say
wheat corn maize vegetables & fruit or rice has had anything to do with Climate Change . Please provide a link if you can find one .

Taxation of the wealthy & Buisness would provide all we need too in the way of food .