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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/labour-mps-hi ... 30550.html

still going on.

I don’t know Wes Streeting, but if he’s true to his words in that article seems he has integrity which more than is being shown by the elected MP or the parties leadership. It’s almost like they don’t care about the problem and are only making token gestures to stamp out the problem.

Based on the parties history and what it originally stood for, this is very shameful on the current leadership.

Isn’t it just still going on. A relentless campaign by lib-left MPs to destabilise and silence the party activists who comment on some current vile Israeli Govt policies and its further suppression and marginalisation of Palestinians.

If I ever see Labour members saying “I hate Jews” or peddling any hateful anti-semitic tropes I’ll be the first to say they should be expelled immediately, and subject to the law to boot. There’s certainly some thoughtless linguistic conflating of “Jews” and “Israeli Govt” at times by a few who are over-obsessed with what’s going on in the Levant, which is closely monitored and reported on out of all proportion & with glee by Corbyn’s opponents both within Labour and outside. But like the linked article eventually makes clear after the initial sh!t-stirring, this instance is yet another manufactured storm in a teacup.

When we are seeing so much more disturbing evidence of real racism and xenophobia directed at immigrants flaring up in our country of late, this issue is mere fluff.

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:14 am I don’t know Wes Streeting, but if he’s true to his words in that article seems he has integrity which more than is being shown by the elected MP or the parties leadership. It’s almost like they don’t care about the problem and are only making token gestures to stamp out the problem.

Based on the parties history and what it originally stood for, this is very shameful on the current leadership.

Thor....there isnt a problem. People have an agenda and are using antisemitism as a weapon. I cant believe there are still people that havent sussed this out now

This is interesting from Labour on social justice & mobility. Whilst too many in politics are narrowly focused on just brexit and stupid short-term political manoeuvres , they are at least thinking about other important issues like transport and green deals that affect us all long term. Doubt it’ll get much attention or generate much critical engagement, mind, when opponents both inside & out of the Party could be scouring social media for ill-judged “likes & retweets” as silly overblown ammunition to undercut Corbynistas instead.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... abour-goal

slacker wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:12 am Much lower turnout than is usual at a GE, with the Libs & Greens also grabbing a bigger share of the vote, but I guess Labour (momentum) activists were out in numbers & did enough by concentrating on local issues to just about hold a seat they were expected to lose after the last MP disgraced herself.

I'm not surprised Momentum were all over her. She's got form as another anti-semite.

https://inews.co.uk/news/jewish-labour- ... sa-forbes/

Steptoe doubted the tanker attacks stating that there was a lack of credible evidence only to be undermined once more by Thornberry.

It seems as soon as the dear leader speaks out on any subject matter she’s out undermining him. I think he could be gone by Xmas.

Well, if Trump says America has evidence that Iran attacked Japanese tankers - just as Japan and Iran sit down to talks to try and stabilise things - then it must be true. No question.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:37 pm Well, if Trump says America has evidence that Iran attacked Japanese tankers - just as Japan and Iran sit down to talks to try and stabilise things - then it must be true. No question.

What is Thornberrys agenda?

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:37 pm Well, if Trump says America has evidence that Iran attacked Japanese tankers - just as Japan and Iran sit down to talks to try and stabilise things - then it must be true. No question.

What's your opinion on the video evidence?

Come on PW cream doesn’t like things like evidence, he just wants his view to be the view regardless of reality.

Just seen trump saying that this evidence he’s seen is the best evidence ever. Shame on anyone who ever doubted him.

Well cream of, I’ve seen the video of the Iranian boat alongside the tanker removing something and leaving the scene, so kindly stop acting the smartarse and provide an alternative explanation.

That pesky Japanese tanker captain has been making stuff up too to try and discredit the Americans best evidence.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:50 pm That pesky Japanese tanker captain has been making stuff up too to try and discredit the Americans best evidence.

TBF, Jezza’s response is embarrassingl

It's being reported that Labour are running out of cash and possibly would not be able to fight a general election.

On top of this their own staff have turned down a third and final offer of a pay award etc and are now expected to ballot the members for strike action. Woeful.

They are not able to obtain credit from banks and other financial institutions as their finances are in such a poor state. Again woeful.

If the reports are correct and they're unable to run their business in a prudent and self financing (or as much as possible) manner, then how can the electorate possibly entrust them to run the country?

Trust them to run the country, are you mad. Corbyn who is anti English, who supports every Marxist , terrorist regime. Who is that blinded he doesn’t think the Russians were responsible for the Salisbury poisonings, Iran is not targeting the oil tankers etc , and Diane Abbott who thinks you can employ a further 10,000 police for £30,000 a year. They couldn’t run a Piss up in a brewery

They should just offer tax breaks to large donors to help swell their coffers like others do.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:52 pm They should just offer tax breaks to large donors to help swell their coffers like others do.

Typical response. Argue back the points raised, not change it to be about the tories, they’ve got there own thread.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:55 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:52 pm They should just offer tax breaks to large donors to help swell their coffers like others do.

Typical response. Argue back the points raised, not change it to be about the tories, they’ve got there own thread.

good point. You’d never see such diversionary tactics on the Tory thread.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:50 pm That pesky Japanese tanker captain has been making stuff up too to try and discredit the Americans best evidence.

Relentless

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:56 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:55 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:52 pm They should just offer tax breaks to large donors to help swell their coffers like others do.

Typical response. Argue back the points raised, not change it to be about the tories, they’ve got there own thread.

good point. You’d never see such diversionary tactics on the Tory thread.

Relentless. Again

It’s being reported that independent volunteers from Democracy Volunteers have said that the Peterborough election was worthy of a former corrupt soviet state.

Cambridgeshire Police have since revealed they are investigating five complaints of electoral malpractice, including bribery.

On top of this Tariq Mahmood, a convicted vote rigger, had been involved in Labour’s winning campaign.

It all seems to point to a corrupt Labour Party who will do anything to get power, it all sounds dodgy to me, if proven it’s a disgrace what’s gone on there. When will you snowflakes wake up and realise that the Labour Party that you love is rotten to the core?

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:18 am It’s being reported that independent volunteers from Democracy Volunteers have said that the Peterborough election was worthy of a former corrupt soviet state.

Cambridgeshire Police have since revealed they are investigating five complaints of electoral malpractice, including bribery.

On top of this Tariq Mahmood, a convicted vote rigger, had been involved in Labour’s winning campaign.

It all seems to point to a corrupt Labour Party who will do anything to get power, it all sounds dodgy to me, if proven it’s a disgrace what’s gone on there. When will you snowflakes wake up and realise that the Labour Party that you love is rotten to the core?

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:26 pm
Thor....there isnt a problem. People have an agenda and are using antisemitism as a weapon. I cant believe there are still people that havent sussed this out now

Replace antisemitism with racism and you have a very similar argument.