Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 5:00 pm
Hmmmm. This image reminds me of something.

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I believe it is important for Europe to show determination and resolve prior to negotiations commencing and sending a clear message to Putin that Europe is not backing down from its support for Ukraine. For once Starmer is getting something right. Hopefully our new military alliance can lead to some sort of new economic partnership.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:43 am The Russians said yesterday that if the UK sends any troops to Ukraine they will , and I quote , " Use their dead bodies as fertilisers for the Ukrainian soil ". Any ceasefire or negotiations would soon break down if Starmer put's UK boots on the ground . I mean , who could've seen that coming .
What do you think should happen? You seem to have a view on this situation so why not enlighten us?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:43 am The Russians said yesterday that if the UK sends any troops to Ukraine they will , and I quote , " Use their dead bodies as fertilisers for the Ukrainian soil ". Any ceasefire or negotiations would soon break down if Starmer put's UK boots on the ground . I mean , who could've seen that coming .
Go with Trumps idea simply because it’s the only one I’ve heard. I know one thing for sure, putting UK troops in Ukraine will only make things worse . If UK troops get killed, what is Starmer’s plan B ?BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:34 amWhat do you think should happen? You seem to have a view on this situation so why not enlighten us?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:43 am The Russians said yesterday that if the UK sends any troops to Ukraine they will , and I quote , " Use their dead bodies as fertilisers for the Ukrainian soil ". Any ceasefire or negotiations would soon break down if Starmer put's UK boots on the ground . I mean , who could've seen that coming .
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:54 amI believe it is important for Europe to show determination and resolve prior to negotiations commencing and sending a clear message to Putin that Europe is not backing down from its support for Ukraine. For once Starmer is getting something right. Hopefully our new military alliance can lead to some sort of new economic partnership.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:43 am The Russians said yesterday that if the UK sends any troops to Ukraine they will , and I quote , " Use their dead bodies as fertilisers for the Ukrainian soil ". Any ceasefire or negotiations would soon break down if Starmer put's UK boots on the ground . I mean , who could've seen that coming .
Contrast this with your hero Trumps approach where withdrawal of military and intelligence support are followed by Putin and the US carving up Ukraine BEFORE negotiations even begin.
So you're fine with appeasing Putin, the Russian dictator who invaded Ukraine? Putin the guy who gets the opposition to conveniently keep falling out of windows? You're happy that Trump supports Putin rather than Zelensky?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:28 pmGo with Trumps idea simply because it’s the only one I’ve heard. I know one thing for sure, putting UK troops in Ukraine will only make things worse . If UK troops get killed, what is Starmer’s plan B ?BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:34 amWhat do you think should happen? You seem to have a view on this situation so why not enlighten us?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:43 am The Russians said yesterday that if the UK sends any troops to Ukraine they will , and I quote , " Use their dead bodies as fertilisers for the Ukrainian soil ". Any ceasefire or negotiations would soon break down if Starmer put's UK boots on the ground . I mean , who could've seen that coming .
Why are you so pessimistic?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:00 pm I agree Putin is a Cnut but we are where we are. How do we get peace ? Russia will never retreat no matter what the cost is in lost lives . Putting America mining interests in Ukraine is better than putting NATO troops on the ground . I’m sure I heard Rachel Reeves call our last contribution a loan. Also isn’t the EU’s money not a loan ? How will they get that money back ?
Thanks for avoiding every question about your view of Trump. Of course Putin is a Cnut but Trump is even worse because he’s sold out the West, Europe in particular. If you can’t see this then there is no point in discussing this further.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:00 pm I agree Putin is a Cnut but we are where we are. How do we get peace ? Russia will never retreat no matter what the cost is in lost lives . Putting America mining interests in Ukraine is better than putting NATO troops on the ground . I’m sure I heard Rachel Reeves call our last contribution a loan. Also isn’t the EU’s money not a loan ? How will they get that money back ?
We threaten Putin With Nuclear War, Didn't Donnny say that beforeRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:00 pm I agree Putin is a Cnut but we are where we are. How do we get peace ? Russia will never retreat no matter what the cost is in lost lives . Putting America mining interests in Ukraine is better than putting NATO troops on the ground . I’m sure I heard Rachel Reeves call our last contribution a loan. Also isn’t the EU’s money not a loan ? How will they get that money back ?
Possible.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 5:44 pm Maybe peace in Ukraine isn’t possible . I’ve heard what you’ve all said about Trump but if his plan fails Ukraine and Russia will need to fight this out to the finish . Of course, the danger is Russia ends up with the whole of Ukraine.