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Thor wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 pm Tom Watson who is an anti gambling campaigner has taken a job advising the owner of paddy power and skybet. What a hypocrit.

Turns out he’ll stab anyone in the back, even himself.

What were these people ever doing in the Labour Party?

No one bother to read his statement then

Let me guess, is he only taking the six figure salary for a few hours work to help change them from the inside?

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 pm Tom Watson who is an anti gambling campaigner has taken a job advising the owner of paddy power and skybet. What a hypocrit.

He may be a Hypocrite but he's know
Charlie Elphicke ex tory M.P & Convicted Sex pest !

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... l-assaults

1 day Thory you may gain the moral high ground
alas for you it's not today .

Elphicke’s wife, Natalie, who stood for office and became the Conservative MP for Dover after her husband did not stand in 2019, had accompanied him to the trial on some days but announced their marriage was ending after the verdict was returned.
In a statement issued after the sentencing, however, she said she fully supported his appeal against his convictions and what she described as the “excessive sentence”.

She now is the Tory MP for this constituency! Just makes you wonder what sort of moral compass some Tory MPs and those who vote for them have.

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:21 pm Let me guess, is he only taking the six figure salary for a few hours work to help change them from the inside?

That's exactly it.

He also just got bunged half a million quid by Max Mosley.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:01 am

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 pm Tom Watson who is an anti gambling campaigner has taken a job advising the owner of paddy power and skybet. What a hypocrit.

He may be a Hypocrite but he's know
Charlie Elphicke ex tory M.P & Convicted Sex pest !

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... l-assaults

1 day Thory you may gain the moral high ground
alas for you it's not today .

Sorry we are talking about Tom Watson, why change it to a sex offender who has been tried before his peers found guilty and sent to prison. It’s called justice and I’m all for that. He is in the place he deserves to be, we just need a few more people locked up and society will be a better place.

So tell me Tuffers what’s your view on Watson taking the coin of betting companies?

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:19 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:01 am

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 pm Tom Watson who is an anti gambling campaigner has taken a job advising the owner of paddy power and skybet. What a hypocrit.

He may be a Hypocrite but he's know
Charlie Elphicke ex tory M.P & Convicted Sex pest !

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... l-assaults

1 day Thory you may gain the moral high ground
alas for you it's not today .

Sorry we are talking about Tom Watson, why change it to a sex offender who has been tried before his peers found guilty and sent to prison. It’s called justice and I’m all for that. He is in the place he deserves to be, we just need a few more people locked up and society will be a better place.

So tell me Tuffers what’s your view on Watson taking the coin of betting companies?

I dont particualarly care about what he does
He does NOT REPRESENT the public as a serving MP
He is just a Member of the general public now.

Bills need to be paid Thory
Or are you saying you want to deny someone the opportunity &
right to earn coin ?

Hypocrisy is about going against what you choose to do .
Serve the public then be squeaky clean
Not a Sex offender while you are paid for by the people
As an M.P !!

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:19 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:01 am

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 pm Tom Watson who is an anti gambling campaigner has taken a job advising the owner of paddy power and skybet. What a hypocrit.

He may be a Hypocrite but he's know
Charlie Elphicke ex tory M.P & Convicted Sex pest !

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... l-assaults

1 day Thory you may gain the moral high ground
alas for you it's not today .

Sorry we are talking about Tom Watson, why change it to a sex offender who has been tried before his peers found guilty and sent to prison. It’s called justice and I’m all for that. He is in the place he deserves to be, we just need a few more people locked up and society will be a better place.

So tell me Tuffers what’s your view on Watson taking the coin of betting companies?

Presumably his point is that you only bleat on about the dodgy Labour MPs?

Redo I’ve commented on him in the Tory thread and others as well. If you do wrong expect to be punished, it doesn’t matter if your Tory or labour.

This could get interesting.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... arks-dirty

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:36 am This could get interesting.


Full article
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... arks-dirty

Not really Thory

Watson, who stepped down as MP after the general election, is joining the company to advise on tackling problem gambling, having spearheaded Labour’s campaign for tough reform of gambling legislation..

"Betting on the Oscar Pistorius Murder Trial is not sport ".

Thory
When someone does a bad thing & realises it is a bad thing
They normally get a GOOD person to make sure they stop
Doing Bad things in the Future .

Its a Simple process.

Youll get there 1 day Thory
I have Faith in you

If you beleive that he is doing it to change it then your deluded, he is taking the shilling and will use his contacts in Parliament to get them what they need want and require. That is the only reason they want him.

Many MPs have done this in the past, he just joins that list.

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:06 pm If you beleive that he is doing it to change it then your deluded, he is taking the shilling and will use his contacts in Parliament to get them what they need want and require. That is the only reason they want him.

Many MPs have done this in the past, he just joins that list.

He isnt am MP thory !

Stop spouting untruths !!

Labour's new slogan "A New Leadership" couldn't be more "Corbyn and the cranks are gone" could it?

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:47 pm Labour's new slogan "A New Leadership" couldn't be more "Corbyn and the cranks are gone" could it?

The Cranks are still here .
They are called the Conservative party

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:47 pm Labour's new slogan "A New Leadership" couldn't be more "Corbyn and the cranks are gone" could it?

Actually, I think it’s more a forensic swipe at the hapless Johnson: You want competent managerialism that won’t frighten the horses rather than a useless, lazy buffoon? Vote Sirkier.

slacker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:10 pm

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:47 pm Labour's new slogan "A New Leadership" couldn't be more "Corbyn and the cranks are gone" could it?

Actually, I think it’s more a forensic swipe at the hapless Johnson: You want competent managerialism that won’t frighten the horses rather than a useless, lazy buffoon? Vote Sirkier.

You're right, it's a clever slogan on both levels

slacker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:10 pm

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:47 pm Labour's new slogan "A New Leadership" couldn't be more "Corbyn and the cranks are gone" could it?

Actually, I think it’s more a forensic swipe at the hapless Johnson: You want competent managerialism that won’t frighten the horses rather than a useless, lazy buffoon? Vote Sirkier.

The horses in the stable at the bottom of your estate? Those horses?

We have got gee-gees in Stables next to us, as it happens. Not mine, though. Had a couple of goes on holiday as a young adult- almost shat myself when they started cantering, but never really fancied horse riding after that.

Hmmm. Labour hinting it will out-Tory the Tories on spending. I know middle ground tabloid voters buy this guff (see Blair), but then you just get Red Tories elected (see Blair) whose hands are tied to only making marginal changes. More “we’re sensible and competent” managerialism speak, I suspect.

All the signs are that they are going to go with 'competence' as their main theme and attack on the Tories. Starmer has been careful to avoid getting sucked into any of the Brexit stuff, and just focus purely on the Tories handling of the pandemic. His only comments about Brexit have been that it is now for the Tories to deliver the kind of Brexit they promised their voters.

But he's also starting to make a nod towards patriotism and nationhood in an attempt to appeal for the traditional working class vote. They've clearly done their research and identified their most likely route to power.

Starmer claims to watch the Queen's broadcast on Christmas Day and draping himself in the Union Jack. Does anybody really believe that?
Or is he simply trying to fool a certain section of the electorate?

E10EU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:00 am Starmer claims to watch the Queen's broadcast on Christmas Day and draping himself in the Union Jack. Does anybody really believe that?
Or is he simply trying to fool a certain section of the electorate?

Isn't that what politics is all about? Fooling the public to get elected?