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Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:54 am
by Friend or fart
CEB your initials are all over this thread like a rash. Is this prurient curiosity an indication that one day we might expect to see you turn up at the ground wearing a frock? Oh! Wait a minute, you don't seem to have any interest at all in Orient playing football; ( in that case Rodney you'd better stick to your crayons { surely that should be Dave } ).

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:09 am
by CEB
That’s three ticks on my CEBingo card

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:28 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Frock is such a strange word to use

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:53 am
by Max B Gold
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:28 am Frock is such a strange word to use
Rhymes with cock though. Which is central to the debate and handy If anyone wants to compose a poem or maybe a limerick.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:02 pm
by Sid Bishop
Max B Gold wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:53 am
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:28 am Frock is such a strange word to use
Rhymes with cock though. Which is central to the debate and handy If anyone wants to compose a poem or maybe a limerick.
OMG, you are trespassing on CEB's thread !

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:13 pm
by Friend or fart
RTW:- Frock is such a strange word to use
Me:- It is an outdated not much used word and is kinda boring. I thought it links well with CEB. Seeing as his initials are much overworked on this thread.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:49 pm
by The Reverend
Friend or faux wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:13 pm RTW:- Frock is such a strange word to use
Me:- It is an outdated not much used word and is kinda boring. I thought it links well with CEB. Seeing as his initials are much overworked on this thread.
You’d better be careful. He’s probably preparing a YouTube video about you to post on another platform and is gearing up to click the like button on a load of your posts from well over a year ago so that you are greeted with 10 notifications from him when you next log in. If you had a display picture he’d be looking to nab that as well.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:04 pm
by CEB
1: I had this profile picture before you did

2: I have no idea what you mean by YouTube video. I never posted any YouTube video

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:17 pm
by Hoover Attack
Friend or faux wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:54 amone day we might expect to see you turn up at the ground wearing a frock? Oh! Wait a minute, you don't seem to have any interest at all in Orient playing football
You're getting confused with Hi Doug.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:20 pm
by CEB
I’ve worn a dress and make up plenty of times anyway.

Genuinely hilarious how many people still haven’t picked up on my most basic position on this, which is “gender non conformity is a great thing that I support wholeheartedly”

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:53 pm
by Long slender neck
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... m-18-to-16

Sweden lowers legal age to change gender to 16, with no diagnosis required after cases up 1500%

What could possibly go wrong?

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:32 am
by ChorizO
Good grief.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:11 am
by Dunners
I can't wait to see the research that backs up this claim.


Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:35 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Born a trans woman?

What if the perpetrator is a trans man?

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:39 am
by Long slender neck
proposed offences in a misogyny bill should apply where the victims are ‘women or those who perpetrators perceive to be women’ this aligns with existing legislation protecting people from abuse that is motivated by prejudice.
I think what hes saying sounds alright.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:30 am
by CEB
What he’s saying would be fair if it were the case that the abuse/harassment that men who believe themselves to be women is receive was carried out because the harassers believed them to be women.

In fact, a moments thought would make it obvious that that carries with it an assumption that “passing” is a default state for “trans women”, when that is not the case at all.

In practice, abuse and harassment received by men who believe themselves to be women is overwhelmingly likely to be because they are recognised as male, ie they’re abused for being *trans* not for being *women* (because they aren’t women, and often aren’t perceived as women)

It does raise this as an interesting hypothetical situation:

A woman and a man who believes himself to be a woman walk down the street.
A workman shouts “oi oi ladies, get your tits out you slaaaaags!”
They turn round.
The workman sees that one of the people he catcalled is male.
He says “sorry mate, I thought you were a woman!”

Which person was the victim of the worst crime?
A: the woman who was catcalled and received no apology
B: the man who received an apology for the catcalling, on the basis that the cat caller doesn’t respect his gender identity

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:20 pm
by Max B Gold
Max B Gold wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:53 am
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:28 am Frock is such a strange word to use
Rhymes with cock though. Which is central to the debate and handy If anyone wants to compose a poem or maybe a limerick.
Someone has PMd me a limerick, presumably because they are too chickenshit scared to post it themselves.

Do youse want me to post it? Warning: it is a bit Rube.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:34 pm
by Dunners
You promised me you wouldn't share that!

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:50 pm
by CEB
A Scotchman once claimed that I hated
A community, and so I awaited
News of my hateful views
But while soaked in booze
Max missed that I’ve been vindicated

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:50 pm
by Hoover Attack
Dunners wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:34 pm You promised me you wouldn't share that!
Where did you C&P it from?

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:32 pm
by Max B Gold
CEB wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:50 pm A Scotchman once claimed that I hated
A community, and so I awaited
News of my hateful views
But while soaked in booze
Max missed that I’ve been vindicated
Well that's a bit racist.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:34 pm
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:34 pm You promised me you wouldn't share that!
I did but what the hell

There once was a boy called keef,
who dated a girl with big teeth,
he lifted her frock and there was her cock
And he slid down its covered sheath

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:49 pm
by CEB
2/10 I could do a much better job roasting myself on this subject

CEB, the once left wing pranny
His obsession with gender? uncanny!
To solve this great mystery
Best check his porn history
Cos you’ll find there nothing but… oh, disappointingly for this limerick, lesbian foot fetish

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:16 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
There once was a man from China
Who wasn’t a very good climber

You know the rest…….

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:16 am
by CEB
Trans activists having a normal one in response to Cass