Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:54 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:43 pm

Mixed feelings on this. Don’t like the nanny state idea at all. I’m a few pounds overweight and don’t need a government to tell me. And yes, it’s hard to lose weight, I exercise every day so my excess must be all muscle, I wish.

But the links between obesity and such things like diabetes and Covid are well known. So what drivel are you referring to.

Hi Dohnut,

Well first and foremost, do people really want to be educated about their weight, by a slobbering piece of blubber; that doesn't look as if he has ever missed a square meal during his entire lifetime?

Drivel as in not recognising that a major part of the problem is the availability of fast food; but Councils appear to be under no Govt. restrictions to stop the issue of food trading licences for pizza outlets, chicken shops, etc. High Streets and Town Centres across this land are full of these godforesaken places.

Drivel as in 'educating people' - really? Yeah, that's really going to work, isn't it. If people are so braindead that they'll pay to have a bloody McDonalds hamburger delivered in a Taxi, then what hope is there honestly of these people ever being 'educated'?

Drivel as in if you want healthier people (particularly youngsters) then ban 'energy drinks' and similar, that are full of sugar. Ban their sale immediately and get them off the shelves.

Get more P.E. back into schools. Educate kids into the benefits of joining football and rugby teams; engaging in more outdoor activities, etc.

A while ago, we got back from our evening two hour walk, before she goes off to work. We are blessed to have two beautiful lakes nearby. Apart from the occasional dog walker, we saw almost nobody. The UK appears to have become a very lazy nation of exercise-shy, unfit, people. Walking seems to be just too much of a challenge for people these days. I even see neighbours driving to the shops that are about a ten minute walk away.

Just to add that I'd be equally critical of this rhetoric, even if it was Labour spouting this nonsense. Actions speak louder than words; so instead of saying what you are going to do, take positive action NOW!

Ok. I understand your feelings but the message itself is not drivel. It’s actually correct. But nothing new, we all know this stuff. What matters more is what positive action is taken to back up words. Positive action as you say.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:43 pm

Mikero wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:44 pm " New Labour were excellent exponents of this. Don’t we all know this? Spin, fake news, the modern day world."

If you look at the fact checking after the election Labours output, however spun, was largely correct. That of the Tory Party was largely incorrect and in many cases blatent lies.

Mikero

And? People don’t want labour policies if they did they’d be in power. No one is interested.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:56 am With just a few hours remaining of July 2020, where's your 'Oven-ready Deal' then Mr. Johnson .......you lying little Etonian Spaffer?

As you stated, as recently as June 2020:

Boris Johnson has said there is no reason why the outline of a Brexit deal cannot be sealed by the end of July, after he asked EU leaders at a video summit to “put a tiger in the tank” of stalled talks.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-boost-eu

See his usual, typical blame game? If it's not care home workers to blame, it's EU Officials. Despite the fact that they are not the ones that need to put "a tiger in the tank" are they Mr. Johnson? They've been ready and willing to negotiate for the past four years; indeed throughout this entire debacle.

David Davis, Dominic Raab, Stephen Barclay and their incompetent teams of Tory minions. What have any of these utter morons delivered to date in relation to any deal? Absolutely sod all.

Meanwhile, Johnson is backtracking away from his agreed Withdrawal Agreement quicker than he can jump out of a bedroom window, with his trousers in his hand.

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/what-hap ... eady-deal/

https://labourlist.org/2020/07/the-tori ... -promised/

"Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive".

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:44 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:43 pm

Mikero wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:44 pm " New Labour were excellent exponents of this. Don’t we all know this? Spin, fake news, the modern day world."

If you look at the fact checking after the election Labours output, however spun, was largely correct. That of the Tory Party was largely incorrect and in many cases blatent lies.

Mikero

And? People don’t want labour policies if they did they’d be in power. No one is interested.

Labour policies
Better Housing for all
Better Wages
Better Education
Better Job prospects
Better Industry .

Why do People who dont vote labour not want these things for
There fellow islanders ?

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:11 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:44 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:43 pm

And? People don’t want labour policies if they did they’d be in power. No one is interested.

Labour policies
Better Housing for all
Better Wages
Better Education
Better Job prospects
Better Industry .

Why do People who dont vote labour not want these things for
There fellow islanders ?

Not to mention:

- Re-investment in the NHS and a guarantee that it would not be privatised/sold out to USA Pharma.
- A National Education Service and an end to rip-off tuition fees.
- The most ambitious environmental targets of all the major parties.
- An end to the systematic government abuse of sick and disabled people.
- £10 per hour minimum wage.
- Zero hours contracts banned.
- Reversal of the 67% Tory cut to the local government budget.
- Repayment of the pension money stolen from 1950s women.
- The rollout of free super-fast broadband.
- Free dental checkups
- A 33% reduction in rail fares

To name just a few things that clearly didn't 'float Thor's boat'.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:07 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:56 am With just a few hours remaining of July 2020, where's your 'Oven-ready Deal' then Mr. Johnson .......you lying little Etonian Spaffer?

As you stated, as recently as June 2020:

Boris Johnson has said there is no reason why the outline of a Brexit deal cannot be sealed by the end of July, after he asked EU leaders at a video summit to “put a tiger in the tank” of stalled talks.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-boost-eu

See his usual, typical blame game? If it's not care home workers to blame, it's EU Officials. Despite the fact that they are not the ones that need to put "a tiger in the tank" are they Mr. Johnson? They've been ready and willing to negotiate for the past four years; indeed throughout this entire debacle.

David Davis, Dominic Raab, Stephen Barclay and their incompetent teams of Tory minions. What have any of these utter morons delivered to date in relation to any deal? Absolutely sod all.

Meanwhile, Johnson is backtracking away from his agreed Withdrawal Agreement quicker than he can jump out of a bedroom window, with his trousers in his hand.

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/what-hap ... eady-deal/

https://labourlist.org/2020/07/the-tori ... -promised/

"Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive".

With all these attacks on the government why don't you look to become a Labour MP now that you have been made redundant?

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:17 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:07 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:56 am With just a few hours remaining of July 2020, where's your 'Oven-ready Deal' then Mr. Johnson .......you lying little Etonian Spaffer?

As you stated, as recently as June 2020:

Boris Johnson has said there is no reason why the outline of a Brexit deal cannot be sealed by the end of July, after he asked EU leaders at a video summit to “put a tiger in the tank” of stalled talks.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-boost-eu

See his usual, typical blame game? If it's not care home workers to blame, it's EU Officials. Despite the fact that they are not the ones that need to put "a tiger in the tank" are they Mr. Johnson? They've been ready and willing to negotiate for the past four years; indeed throughout this entire debacle.

David Davis, Dominic Raab, Stephen Barclay and their incompetent teams of Tory minions. What have any of these utter morons delivered to date in relation to any deal? Absolutely sod all.

Meanwhile, Johnson is backtracking away from his agreed Withdrawal Agreement quicker than he can jump out of a bedroom window, with his trousers in his hand.

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/what-hap ... eady-deal/

https://labourlist.org/2020/07/the-tori ... -promised/

"Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive".

With all these attacks on the government why don't you look to become a Labour MP now that you have been made redundant?

Errrrrmmm........maybe because it will be quite difficult canvassing in Nuneaton; when I'll be living in Fremantle, Western Australia?

The daily commute to The House of Commons could be quite expensive and laborious too.

Any more bright ideas?

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:20 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:17 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:07 pm

With all these attacks on the government why don't you look to become a Labour MP now that you have been made redundant?

Errrrrmmm........maybe because it will be quite difficult canvassing in Nuneaton; when I'll be living in Fremantle, Western Australia?

The daily commute to The House of Commons could be quite expensive and laborious too.

Any more bright ideas?

Give up posting on UK politics then.

And start preparing to bore us on the Aussie version.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:22 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:20 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:17 pm
Errrrrmmm........maybe because it will be quite difficult canvassing in Nuneaton; when I'll be living in Fremantle, Western Australia?

The daily commute to The House of Commons could be quite expensive and laborious too.

Any more bright ideas?

Give up posting on UK politics then.

And start preparing to bore us on the Aussie version.

I'll do you a deal.

When Johnson and his Tory stop lying and screwing up this Country, I'll stop posting about UK politics.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:27 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:22 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:20 pm

Give up posting on UK politics then.

And start preparing to bore us on the Aussie version.

I'll do you a deal.

When Johnson and his Tory stop lying and screwing up this Country, I'll stop posting about UK politics.

You're leaving. Let it go.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:07 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:56 am With just a few hours remaining of July 2020, where's your 'Oven-ready Deal' then Mr. Johnson .......you lying little Etonian Spaffer?

As you stated, as recently as June 2020:

Boris Johnson has said there is no reason why the outline of a Brexit deal cannot be sealed by the end of July, after he asked EU leaders at a video summit to “put a tiger in the tank” of stalled talks.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-boost-eu

See his usual, typical blame game? If it's not care home workers to blame, it's EU Officials. Despite the fact that they are not the ones that need to put "a tiger in the tank" are they Mr. Johnson? They've been ready and willing to negotiate for the past four years; indeed throughout this entire debacle.

David Davis, Dominic Raab, Stephen Barclay and their incompetent teams of Tory minions. What have any of these utter morons delivered to date in relation to any deal? Absolutely sod all.

Meanwhile, Johnson is backtracking away from his agreed Withdrawal Agreement quicker than he can jump out of a bedroom window, with his trousers in his hand.

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/what-hap ... eady-deal/

https://labourlist.org/2020/07/the-tori ... -promised/

"Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive".

With all these attacks on the government why don't you look to become a Labour MP now that you have been made redundant?

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:45 pm Matt "I'll make it absolutely clear" Hancock..........utterly clueless YET AGAIN.

Seriously, just listen to this utter tool from the radio earlier and tell me, in all honesty, whether he is worthy of being a Government Minister; particularly, in such an important position at this time. He doesn't even understand the current rules himself!

Matt Hancock ties himself in knots and tells 'ehhhh, I will absolutely get back to you' .
Note by the way, that this is from the Tory-loving Daily Mail, not The Guardian)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -area.html

Perhaps he needs to concentrate on his own job responsibilities more; rather than shouting across the chamber at Starmer QC, like some petulant child.

You see Ornchurch - this is my very point.How can I possibly not keep sharing/bringing these failures to your attention, when the Tory Party just keep on so readily giving!

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:09 pm You sound very bitter NO. Let it go and enjoy your life.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:51 pm A bloke terrified of a made up global paedo ring run by bill gates and Obama telling people to relax and enjoy your life only on here!

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:28 am Oh well.

It's gone Midnight and it's now August 1st.

So where is your "all-singing, all-dancing, oven-ready Brexit Deal' by the end of July then Mr. Johnson?

A figment of your imagination: more Tory lies.....or perhaps both?

You have destroyed the United Kingdom; and are complicit in the manslaughter of tens of thousands of our people.

I sincerely hope that you rot in Hell.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:28 am Oh well.

It's gone Midnight and it's now August 1st.

So where is your "all-singing, all-dancing, oven-ready Brexit Deal' by the end of July then Mr. Johnson?

A figment of your imagination: more Tory lies.....or perhaps both?

You have destroyed the United Kingdom; and are complicit in the manslaughter of tens of thousands of our people.

I sincerely hope that you rot in Hell.