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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:31 pm
by StillSpike
Real Al wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:28 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:00 am EU suspending passenger rights so anyone hoping to get a refund for a holiday they'd booked are fuc*ed
Fake news. A majority of countries within the EU are urging this.It's not some diktat from the European Parliament.

But you knew that.
Maybe the UK could use our Vet....Oh!

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:33 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Real Al wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:28 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:00 am EU suspending passenger rights so anyone hoping to get a refund for a holiday they'd booked are fuc*ed
Fake news. A majority of countries within the EU are urging this.It's not some diktat from the European Parliament.

But you knew that.
OK Donald, I didn't fwiw

BBCs journos tweeted it so thought I'd share

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:38 pm
by Long slender neck
RedO wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:16 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:54 pm Down to about 400 hospital deaths a day in England. This has halved from earlier in the month.

By June the worst will hopefully be over.
Don’t the other deaths count?
Not helpful to compare different things.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:22 pm
by Disoriented
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:38 pm
RedO wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:16 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:54 pm Down to about 400 hospital deaths a day in England. This has halved from earlier in the month.

By June the worst will hopefully be over.
Don’t the other deaths count?
Not helpful to compare different things.
Of course, deaths from the same thing are different Coulro.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:44 pm
by Max B Gold
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:38 pm
RedO wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:16 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:54 pm Down to about 400 hospital deaths a day in England. This has halved from earlier in the month.

By June the worst will hopefully be over.
Don’t the other deaths count?
Not helpful to compare different things.
Where was the emergency government strategy for virus management in care homes?

Or don't the olds count?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 12:04 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
‘They were going to die later in the year anyway’ seems to be the standard Tory response to that one.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 12:33 am
by Max B Gold
RedO wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 12:04 am ‘They were going to die later in the year anyway’ seems to be the standard Tory response to that one.
So we have a government failing in its first duty to protect its people.

FFS! Even Corbyn would have baulked at that failure.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 8:17 am
by Long slender neck
Disoriented wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:22 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:38 pm
RedO wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:16 pm

Don’t the other deaths count?
Not helpful to compare different things.
Of course, deaths from the same thing are different Coulro.
Do you have an accurate figures for all deaths for everyday then?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 9:47 am
by point nine one eight
RoryRocks wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:11 pm Quick question to you all? I had a number of my family who were really ill all at the same time back about a week before Half term in the UK in London and Cambridge and it lasted for about 3 or 4 weeks. Extremely high temperatures, sore throat, headaches, shivers, no appetite, the worst cough they ever had, fatigue and in some instances projectile vomiting. In fact, one of my sisters had such a violent cough at the time she thought she had broke her ribs. When she eventually got to see the Doctor, the Doctor told her she had pulled muscles. None of them were tested at the time. I'm now thinking this virus was spreading like wildfire during February. Thankfully they are all well now but it has now donned on them too that they may very well have had it. The strange thing is not everybody in their house went down and had no symptoms. In fact, some of my relations in the UK and Ireland had the worst flu like symptoms back at the end of December early January, the likes they never experienced before. Have any of you had similar experiences?
I'm beginning to think my younger son and myself caught this virus in early February, not as bad as in your family, temperature, sore throat, shivers and no appetite and fatigue, laid me out for 8 days, son for 5 days. Fever was high laying in bed lots of covers on and shivering, broke the fever that night, not nice however noticed difference as soon as fever broke.
Hope no one from here gets infected, stay well.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 9:50 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Max B Gold wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 12:33 am
RedO wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 12:04 am ‘They were going to die later in the year anyway’ seems to be the standard Tory response to that one.
So we have a government failing in its first duty to protect its people.

FFS! Even Corbyn would have baulked at that failure.
Sir Kier will look at it forensically and strike when the time is right. Don't fret. Be an adult about this.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 12:27 pm
by Dunners
There does appear to be a lot of anecdotal evidence to suggest the virus was circulating in the UK in February at least, if not before. It will be interesting if a reliable anti-body test is ever brought out.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 2:25 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
A theme recently has been "Don't be afraid to go to hospital. We are concerned people are staying away"

Father in law rocked up at hospital this morning 5AM with chest pains, told to come back at 8am as they weren't open.
Had a heart attack on his way home 🙄

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 2:30 pm
by DonaldRocks
point nine one eight wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 9:47 am
RoryRocks wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:11 pm Quick question to you all? I had a number of my family who were really ill all at the same time back about a week before Half term in the UK in London and Cambridge and it lasted for about 3 or 4 weeks. Extremely high temperatures, sore throat, headaches, shivers, no appetite, the worst cough they ever had, fatigue and in some instances projectile vomiting. In fact, one of my sisters had such a violent cough at the time she thought she had broke her ribs. When she eventually got to see the Doctor, the Doctor told her she had pulled muscles. None of them were tested at the time. I'm now thinking this virus was spreading like wildfire during February. Thankfully they are all well now but it has now donned on them too that they may very well have had it. The strange thing is not everybody in their house went down and had no symptoms. In fact, some of my relations in the UK and Ireland had the worst flu like symptoms back at the end of December early January, the likes they never experienced before. Have any of you had similar experiences?
I'm beginning to think my younger son and myself caught this virus in early February, not as bad as in your family, temperature, sore throat, shivers and no appetite and fatigue, laid me out for 8 days, son for 5 days. Fever was high laying in bed lots of covers on and shivering, broke the fever that night, not nice however noticed difference as soon as fever broke.
Hope no one from here gets infected, stay well.
It's more and more looking like a pattern Tbh. They now know that the first patient in ICU with Covid in Ireland was February 17th. My niece is back on the front line after recovering. What a baptism of fire for those young medics. We just need to keep most things on lockdown for a few weeks more especially until after the UK bank Holiday and then hopefully we can see some lifting off restrictions. This is not easy but as we have gone this far, let's go that extra mile. Keep Safe All.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 2:31 pm
by BIGRON
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 2:25 pm A theme recently has been "Don't be afraid to go to hospital. We are concerned people are staying away"

Father in law rocked up at hospital this morning 5AM with chest pains, told to come back at 8am as they weren't open.
Had a heart attack on his way home 🙄
Wish your father in law well mate .

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 2:33 pm
by DonaldRocks
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 2:25 pm A theme recently has been "Don't be afraid to go to hospital. We are concerned people are staying away"

Father in law rocked up at hospital this morning 5AM with chest pains, told to come back at 8am as they weren't open.
Had a heart attack on his way home 🙄
Yes, this is a major issue. If anybody on here feels they need to go to the Doctor or A&E, please go. If your worried about other ailments, don't neglect them.

Hope you're Father in Law is in good hands now.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 2:43 pm
by StillSpike
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 2:25 pm A theme recently has been "Don't be afraid to go to hospital. We are concerned people are staying away"

Father in law rocked up at hospital this morning 5AM with chest pains, told to come back at 8am as they weren't open.
Had a heart attack on his way home 🙄
Hope your FiL recovers well.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 2:46 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
He's alright but been told that because he was in hospital he has to be discharged to isolation which is a bit concerning

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 3:51 pm
by Long slender neck
How can they not be open?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 3:58 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 3:51 pm How can they not be open?
The hospital only has an "Urgent Treatment Centre" which apparently is a poor man's A&E and since Covid started their hours have been 08:00 - 22:00 as opposed to 24hr

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 5:07 pm
by Long slender neck
352 hospital deaths

122k tests yesterday

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 5:14 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
So Hancock smashed his target?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 5:15 pm
by Top of the JES
Moving in the right direction. Although deaths in other areas (387) are still a concern. 122k tests yesterday and 6000+ infections the percentage testing positive is now starting to fall steadily. There is also a mega testing centre in Cambridge opening on Monday so test and trace should be ready for when the lockdown is eased.

Going to be a lot of disappointed hacks who were ready to pounce on Hancock for not meeting the 100k target by end of April, testing is really ramping up quite nicely.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 5:30 pm
by DonaldRocks
I'm viewing a figure of 739 on Worldometers. Testing improving but the UK is still way behind alot of Countries. I'd expect that the UK will pass Italy out over the weekend and will have the 2nd worse death rate in the world in terms of numbers.

Everybody could see this coming.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 5:35 pm
by BoniO
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 5:14 pm So Hancock smashed his target?
And, personally, I couldn't be happier. It doesn't mean that the government hasn't performed terribly so far but if the valid criticism they've received has spurred them on to get results then I'm a happy bunny. It was always about beating this bloody virus, not about point scoring.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 5:41 pm
by Top of the JES
739 is all deaths -352 hospital deaths + 387 in care homes and other places.

We were slow off the mark no denying that, the total number of deaths is horrible.