Independent Leyton Orient Forum

StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:34 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:27 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:28 pm

Thought your man Donald was going to end the war in 24 hours?

At least he is going to try unlike his predecessor .

I honestly can't think why he's bothering. Oh, actually I can. (its perhaps to do with 50% of everything, forever)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... n-one-day/

"The agreement covers the “economic value associated with resources of Ukraine”, including “mineral resources, oil and gas resources, ports, other infrastructure (as agreed)”, leaving it unclear what else might be encompassed. “This agreement shall be governed by New York law, without regard to conflict of laws principles,” it states.

The US will take 50pc of recurring revenues received by Ukraine from extraction of resources, and 50pc of the financial value of “all new licences issued to third parties” for the future monetisation of resources. There will be “a lien on such revenues” in favour of the US. “That clause means ‘pay us first, and then feed your children’,” said one source close to the negotiations.

It states that “for all future licences, the US will have a right of first refusal for the purchase of exportable minerals”. Washington will have sovereign immunity and acquire near total control over most of Ukraine’s commodity and resource economy. The fund “shall have the exclusive right to establish the method, selection criteria, terms, and conditions” of all future licences and projects. And so forth, in this vein. It seems to have been written by private lawyers, not the US departments of state or commerce."

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:40 pm RD batting for a man who is selling Europe (which includes the country RD actually lives in and is from) down the river never fails to be baffle me.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:54 pm Traitor

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:40 pm RD batting for a man who is selling Europe (which includes the country RD actually lives in and is from) down the river never fails to be baffle me.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:12 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:54 pm Traitor

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:50 am Someone’s probably been in his ear and suggested the conflict actually started when the democratically elected Russophile government was overthrown by the CIA backed Orange Revolution and Russia retaliated

His comments also suggest he thinks Zelenskyy is a dictator insosfar as he’s suspended elections indefinitely, banned political opponents and banned certain Orthodox Christian religions from practising.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:26 am All those years we decried the "lunatic fringe" left for their take on things. That democracy throughout our countries was a sham, that NATO was the real aggressor, that the US needed to stop interfering and mind its own business, that there could be another way....etc etc...

Those lefties must be delighted, as the likes of Trump, Vance etc are all saying very similar things, and are going to do something about it. You guys win.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:06 am The lefties: "What do we want? "The things"
Trump: "Okay, have the things"
The lefties: "No, not those things!"

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:11 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:06 am The lefties: "What do we want? "The things"
Trump: "Okay, have the things"
The lefties: "No, not those things!"

Which "Lefties" are you talking about. Are they in the room with you now?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:27 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:11 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:06 am The lefties: "What do we want? "The things"
Trump: "Okay, have the things"
The lefties: "No, not those things!"

Which "Lefties" are you talking about. Are they in the room with you now?

No , they are on this messageboard .