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Type high wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:23 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:42 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:34 pm

That was a mistake that the Americans admit to and regret, Nothing like the scale of crimes willfully committed by ISIS.
Meanwhile in Afghanistan, girls now not allowed to go to school and Taliban morality police replace women's ministry.

Shemima Begum says she " made a Mistake " .

There is no footage of her using words
to celebrate those killed by her , unlike
the souless people in that us military aircraft .

Yet you seem to appease there murderous ways, & yet for a girl who was
not involved in murder . If the women arent allowed to go to sfhool or
work , i hardly think they would allow them to do killings of any kind .

It's a shame we don't have something like the Yanks, " Un American Activities", You Tuffers would have to re think your anti British sentiments

Anti British Sentiments ?

Can you list what my anti british sentiments are ?
ill correct you or applaud your answers .

she never gives out
And she never gives in
She just changes her mind

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:58 pm

Type high wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:23 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:42 pm

Shemima Begum says she " made a Mistake " .

There is no footage of her using words
to celebrate those killed by her , unlike
the souless people in that us military aircraft .

Yet you seem to appease there murderous ways, & yet for a girl who was
not involved in murder . If the women arent allowed to go to sfhool or
work , i hardly think they would allow them to do killings of any kind .

It's a shame we don't have something like the Yanks, " Un American Activities", You Tuffers would have to re think your anti British sentiments

Anti British Sentiments ?

Can youist what my anti british sentiments are ?
ill correct you or applaud your answers .

Read your last text, you support her

Type high wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:14 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:58 pm

Type high wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:23 pm

It's a shame we don't have something like the Yanks, " Un American Activities", You Tuffers would have to re think your anti British sentiments

Anti British Sentiments ?

Can youist what my anti british sentiments are ?
ill correct you or applaud your answers .

Read your last text, you support her

Nope so support 8n a text by me .

Can you point it out EXACTLY ?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:26 pm

Type high wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:14 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:58 pm

Anti British Sentiments ?

Can youist what my anti british sentiments are ?
ill correct you or applaud your answers .

Read your last text, you support her

Nope so support 8n a text by me .

Can you point it out EXACTLY ?

Think I've miss read it, oops clang let you off this time

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:58 pm Isn’t it great that this MB has so many psychological experts who only need a 5 minute tv interview to judge someone’s level of remorse and the coldness of their eyes. Great resource for learning is this place

its just a response to those who jump on the hang her brigade bandwagon
because she made a mistake when she was a child .

If she has 'no regrets', implies she doesn't consider her choices as a mistake.

To block 160 you not only have to block him but everyone he engages with for pages because he has nothing else to do

Type high wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:35 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:26 pm

Type high wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:14 pm

Read your last text, you support her

Nope so support 8n a text by me .

Can you point it out EXACTLY ?

Think I've miss read it, oops clang let you off this time

apology accepted

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:07 pm To block 160 you not only have to block him but everyone he engages with for pages because he has nothing else to do

I have plenty to do !

Blooming Cheek .

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:10 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:54 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:44 pm

Emotionless, cold and calculating reptilian type eyes.

No there big soft brown eyes Sid

Like a Big Cuddly Teddy Bear

The same emotionless ISIS eyes that felt no sympathy for those people who were beheaded and the Yazidi women who were tortured, raped and forced into sexual slavery. Shamima Begum likes the idea of living in an Islamic Country that practices a strict interpretation of Islamic religious law, known as Sharia, so perhaps she would be happier living in Taliban ruled Afghanistan.

That’s why she wants to come back to Whitechapel

I want i want i want sounds like someone her age

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:50 pm If she has 'no regrets', implies she doesn't consider her choices as a mistake.

Bit like Brexiteers. The contrary evidence is in front of their eyes. But yet.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:11 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:50 pm If she has 'no regrets', implies she doesn't consider her choices as a mistake.

Bit like Brexiteers. The contrary evidence is in front of their eyes. But yet.

BRAVO I SAY BRAVO

Weird whatabboutery

In her defence, she does look a lot like the late Bernie Winters

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62726954

New twist

This whole thing should be beneath us, and she should have been brought back to the UK. But that is pretty desperate stuff from Team Shamima.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:00 pm If anyone's interested, the Times recently did an interesting and thought-provoking series of podcasts on this issue.

www.thetimes.co.uk/podcasts/stories-of-our-times

Scroll down to the five Bring Me Home episodes starting from 23 November 2020.

Far be it for me to stir this particular pot up again, but the BBC are putting out a podcast series that goes deeper into what happened, including interviews with Shamima. The first episode was a good listen.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0dvg6n8

Relentless.

Today's the day when the court will hand down judgement on her appeal against the government's decision to strip her of UK citizenship.

I don't know if anyone else has been listening to the podcast but, if not, I recommend it. It's a great example of investigative journalism, and gives the listener a lot to think about. Joshua Baker is quick to point out that nothing anyone, especially Shamima, says can be taken at face value. He and his team go to great lengths to verify claims and track down key players in this story.

I've missed a podcast about Shamima Begum? Why didn't you let me know, I would have cancelled all my plans to listen to that.

The judgement is in, and it is as expected. A lot of people seem to be very happy that the UK government has acted in this way, without giving much thought to the precedent it sets.

Whatever one thinks about the merits of the case, what a truly dreadful life she has led. Both school friends and her three children perished..

Still really can't wrap my head around why her crimes won't be treated like any other under age offender ie the principle of rehabilitation applies. Her life ended the moment she made an awful, awful decision at 15 (which is the sort of age you'd consider someone vulnerable to grooming).

Am listening to the BBC series on her and she's not exactly easy to sympathise with mind.