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I guess it would make much more sense from the point of view of reducing pollution to just have a blanket ban on all the most polluting cars, with no option to come in to the zone. But then, of course, the media would fill their pages with stories of poor old folk who only come in to town once a flood and yet NOW they have to buy a new car to do so because there's just no leeway with a blanket ban.faldO wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:06 amIndeed...Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:13 am Yes I agree with what you say , especially ‘who would not want to save the lives of children’. This is where I find it odd. We want to save their lives but if you pay £12.50 it does not really matter , carry on polluting!
But you both know that. (Not sure Lee does, mind - he doesn't really do thinking)
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It could be just me, but this Lee Hurst doesn’t seem funny anymore.StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:28 pmI guess it would make much more sense from the point of view of reducing pollution to just have a blanket ban on all the most polluting cars, with no option to come in to the zone. But then, of course, the media would fill their pages with stories of poor old folk who only come in to town once a flood and yet NOW they have to buy a new car to do so because there's just no leeway with a blanket ban.faldO wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:06 amIndeed...Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:13 am Yes I agree with what you say , especially ‘who would not want to save the lives of children’. This is where I find it odd. We want to save their lives but if you pay £12.50 it does not really matter , carry on polluting!
But you both know that. (Not sure Lee does, mind - he doesn't really do thinking)
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He’s not. Saw him in Bethnal Green last year, as 3rd or 4th support.FrankOFile wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:01 amIt could be just me, but this Lee Hurst doesn’t seem funny anymore.StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:28 pmI guess it would make much more sense from the point of view of reducing pollution to just have a blanket ban on all the most polluting cars, with no option to come in to the zone. But then, of course, the media would fill their pages with stories of poor old folk who only come in to town once a flood and yet NOW they have to buy a new car to do so because there's just no leeway with a blanket ban.
But you both know that. (Not sure Lee does, mind - he doesn't really do thinking)
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This kind of hysteria is going to be the norm now, isn't it? Even to the most rational, sensible and even mild policies.
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Agree, must be offences there, saying what he has said. Like if Adnam Chowdry had suggested killing someone.
He should certainly be charged with having that dodgy haircut in public as well.
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Lots of Tory types advocating vandalism without any sense of irony over their claims to be pro-"rule of law" and outrage when all those statues were being vandalised.
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Mullins Mullet as he's known in the tradeLoin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:33 amAgree, must be offences there, saying what he has said. Like if Adnam Chowdry had suggested killing someone.
He should certainly be charged with having that dodgy haircut in public as well.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66676737A transgender activist who told a crowd to "punch a terf" has been cleared of intentionally encouraging the commission of an offence.
Seems its perfectly lawful to encourage violence against others these days ....So in this spirit..."who would like to punch Steve Evans tomorrow and add in a few gratuitous kicks as well?"
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Even though its now 2 weeks since this came into effect, and even though my own car meets the Ulez criteria, Im still really angry with this.
The dishonesty from the Mayor is breathtaking.
Its about grabbing money, nothing else. I read somewhere this will put an average of 13 mins on our lives.
I shall certainly be giving who i vote for in next Mays mayoral election some thought, but it wont be a vote for Khan
The dishonesty from the Mayor is breathtaking.
Its about grabbing money, nothing else. I read somewhere this will put an average of 13 mins on our lives.
I shall certainly be giving who i vote for in next Mays mayoral election some thought, but it wont be a vote for Khan
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Im with you that's it's just a money grab.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:31 pm Even though its now 2 weeks since this came into effect, and even though my own car meets the Ulez criteria, Im still really angry with this.
The dishonesty from the Mayor is breathtaking.
Its about grabbing money, nothing else. I read somewhere this will put an average of 13 mins on our lives.
I shall certainly be giving who i vote for in next Mays mayoral election some thought, but it wont be a vote for Khan
It's amazing how by paying £12.50 means that pollution goes away.
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Re: ulez
What the actual f**k are you on about?ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:31 pm Even though its now 2 weeks since this came into effect, and even though my own car meets the Ulez criteria, Im still really angry with this.
The dishonesty from the Mayor is breathtaking.
Its about grabbing money, nothing else. I read somewhere this will put an average of 13 mins on our lives.
I shall certainly be giving who i vote for in next Mays mayoral election some thought, but it wont be a vote for Khan
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Re: ulez
The charge is deter you from driving your polluting vehicle and switch to something else, obviously.Fellowo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:54 pmIm with you that's it's just a money grab.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:31 pm Even though its now 2 weeks since this came into effect, and even though my own car meets the Ulez criteria, Im still really angry with this.
The dishonesty from the Mayor is breathtaking.
Its about grabbing money, nothing else. I read somewhere this will put an average of 13 mins on our lives.
I shall certainly be giving who i vote for in next Mays mayoral election some thought, but it wont be a vote for Khan
It's amazing how by paying £12.50 means that pollution goes away.
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Re: ulez
Good question.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:40 pm Do you not think he should be addressing climate change and pollution?
This will have such little effect ( if any), on pollution, it really isnt worth the cost to the poorer people of our city. As Ive said, it doesnt affect me personally, as my car is Ulez complient ( at the moment),
Its just gesture politics." Oh look at me, Im doing something about dirty air", when he's not really
This is just honest opinion
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Re: ulez
"STOP THE BOATS" is gesture politics.
Reducing harmful air particles is public health policy.
Reducing harmful air particles is public health policy.
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Why do you think that taking the most polluting vehicles off the road will have only a "little effect" on pollution?ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 8:37 pmGood question.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:40 pm Do you not think he should be addressing climate change and pollution?
This will have such little effect ( if any), on pollution, it really isnt worth the cost to the poorer people of our city. As Ive said, it doesnt affect me personally, as my car is Ulez complient ( at the moment),
Its just gesture politics." Oh look at me, Im doing something about dirty air", when he's not really
This is just honest opinion