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E10EU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:30 pm

Mikero wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:19 pm The people involved with the smears should now be excluded from the party, if they were ever members in the first place.

Some of the people who went to great lengths to smear Corbyn have now been given a generous payment by Starmer.

I suppose they went to great lengths insofar as they broke NDAs and lost their jobs to expose racism.

Glad to see this decision is opposed by the worst kind of people. The ones who are remaining true to their conspiratorial racism to the bitter end though

Jeremy Corbyn is seeking legal advice at this moment in time, so it isnt something I would comment on until the legal position has been sorted.

As an aside, there are a lot of people begging Corbyn to form a new party. I expect at his age he wouldnt be interested, but if he did, he would have 200,000 members in the first week, and he would completely scupper Starmers chance to be Prime Minister
Food for thought!

Going for the losing general election hattrick?

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 pm Jeremy Corbyn is seeking legal advice at this moment in time, so it isnt something I would comment on until the legal position has been sorted.

As an aside, there are a lot of people begging Corbyn to form a new party. I expect at his age he wouldnt be interested, but if he did, he would have 200,000 members in the first week, and he would completely scupper Starmers chance to be Prime Minister
Food for thought!

He'd only need another 199,999.

Sign me up!

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 pm Jeremy Corbyn is seeking legal advice at this moment in time, so it isnt something I would comment on until the legal position has been sorted.

As an aside, there are a lot of people begging Corbyn to form a new party. I expect at his age he wouldnt be interested, but if he did, he would have 200,000 members in the first week, and he would completely scupper Starmers chance to be Prime Minister
Food for thought!

If you want a racist loony left party where your anti Jewish schitk is tolerated... Join the SWP

Corbyn might be consulting legal advice, but only because he's repeated Milne's defamatory lies and is now facing litigation himself

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:19 pm Going for the losing general election hattrick?

They've lost the last 4 already

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 pm As an aside, there are a lot of people begging Corbyn to form a new party. I expect at his age he wouldnt be interested, but if he did, he would have 200,000 members in the first week, and he would completely scupper Starmers chance to be Prime Minister

Would it necessarily scupper Starmer?

What if it meant that some of those people who felt they could not vote Labour whilst Corbyn was in charge and deserted to the Tories were prepared to come back to (a new) Labour? Also, Brexit will (probably) have no impact on the next GE so people may be able to return to old allegiances.

If Layla Moran wins the LibDem leadership she said she wants to take the LibDems left of Labour, which might also cost them voters.

A middle ground Labour party could pick up a lot of votes.

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:40 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 pm Jeremy Corbyn is seeking legal advice at this moment in time, so it isnt something I would comment on until the legal position has been sorted.

As an aside, there are a lot of people begging Corbyn to form a new party. I expect at his age he wouldnt be interested, but if he did, he would have 200,000 members in the first week, and he would completely scupper Starmers chance to be Prime Minister
Food for thought!

If you want a racist loony left party where your anti Jewish schitk is tolerated... Join the SWP

Corbyn might be consulting legal advice, but only because he's repeated Milne's defamatory lies and is now facing litigation himself

Its hard to have a reasoned discussion with a person who gives no questions asked support to a apartheid racist state as you do, then calls anti racists...racist .

I had that thought as well, far from what the Brighton Labour party has done today the Tories suspended a counciller for Islamaphobic postings only to reinstate her two day later lest they lost control of the council.

Mikero

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 pm As an aside, there are a lot of people begging Corbyn to form a new party. I expect at his age he wouldnt be interested, but if he did, he would have 200,000 members in the first week, and he would completely scupper Starmers chance to be Prime Minister
Food for thought!

Corbyn already scuppered Starmer's chance to be PM by delivering Labour's worst postwar GE result.

His imaginary new party would be lucky to get 5% of the vote

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:49 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:19 pm Going for the losing general election hattrick?

They've lost the last 4 already

Theyve lost 3 election on the spin not 4

Nobody won the 1st election. the tory party with
Dodgy dave & the Lib dems formed an alliance.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:41 pm

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:40 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 pm Jeremy Corbyn is seeking legal advice at this moment in time, so it isnt something I would comment on until the legal position has been sorted.

As an aside, there are a lot of people begging Corbyn to form a new party. I expect at his age he wouldnt be interested, but if he did, he would have 200,000 members in the first week, and he would completely scupper Starmers chance to be Prime Minister
Food for thought!

If you want a racist loony left party where your anti Jewish schitk is tolerated... Join the SWP

Corbyn might be consulting legal advice, but only because he's repeated Milne's defamatory lies and is now facing litigation himself

Its hard to have a reasoned discussion with a person who gives no questions asked support to a apartheid racist state as you do, then calls anti racists...racist .

It's hard to have a reasoned discussion woth someone who can't differentiate between Jews and Israel

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Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:57 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 pm As an aside, there are a lot of people begging Corbyn to form a new party. I expect at his age he wouldnt be interested, but if he did, he would have 200,000 members in the first week, and he would completely scupper Starmers chance to be Prime Minister
Food for thought!

Corbyn already scuppered Starmer's chance to be PM by delivering Labour's worst postwar GE result.

His imaginary new party would be lucky to get 5% of the vote

And you dont think 5% would be enough to stop Starmer?

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:08 pm

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:57 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 pm As an aside, there are a lot of people begging Corbyn to form a new party. I expect at his age he wouldnt be interested, but if he did, he would have 200,000 members in the first week, and he would completely scupper Starmers chance to be Prime Minister
Food for thought!

Corbyn already scuppered Starmer's chance to be PM by delivering Labour's worst postwar GE result.

His imaginary new party would be lucky to get 5% of the vote

And you dont think 5% would be enough to stop Starmer?

I think Corbs achieving Labour's worst result since 1935 will stop Starmer

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:08 pm

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:57 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 pm As an aside, there are a lot of people begging Corbyn to form a new party. I expect at his age he wouldnt be interested, but if he did, he would have 200,000 members in the first week, and he would completely scupper Starmers chance to be Prime Minister
Food for thought!

Corbyn already scuppered Starmer's chance to be PM by delivering Labour's worst postwar GE result.

His imaginary new party would be lucky to get 5% of the vote

And you dont think 5% would be enough to stop Starmer?

Bless the far left, they genuinely hate the moderates more than the Tories

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:26 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:08 pm

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:57 pm

Corbyn already scuppered Starmer's chance to be PM by delivering Labour's worst postwar GE result.

His imaginary new party would be lucky to get 5% of the vote

And you dont think 5% would be enough to stop Starmer?

Bless the far left, they genuinely hate the moderates more than the Tories

Completely and utterly correct.

Or the moderates sympathise more with the Tories than they do the far left. Just depends which side you're on.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:07 pm

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:49 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:19 pm Going for the losing general election hattrick?

They've lost the last 4 already

Theyve lost 3 election on the spin not 4

Nobody won the 1st election. the tory party eith
Dodgy.dave & the Lib dems formed an alliance.

It’s not about who won, but who lost. Labour have lost 4 on the spin. The record books say so.

What I meant was that Corbyn lost two

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:59 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:07 pm

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:49 pm

They've lost the last 4 already

Theyve lost 3 election on the spin not 4

Nobody won the 1st election. the tory party eith
Dodgy.dave & the Lib dems formed an alliance.

It’s not about who won, but who lost. Labour have lost 4 on the spin. The record books say so.

It also says the tories won 3 on the spin, not 4

Well, not really. They didn't achieve a majority in 2010, 2015 or 2017. But they did under Boris. No point in anyone on the left diminishing the significance of the UK saying no to the left and yes to the right, so comprehensively both ways.

Inexplicably though, I must add. It shows why ideology trumps competency. They've been terrible fora decade but were rewarded with a big f*** off majority because people like their ideology and excuse their incompetence.

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:20 pm Well, not really. They didn't achieve a majority in 2010, 2015 or 2017. But they did under Boris. No point in anyone on the left diminishing the significance of the UK saying no to the left and yes to the right, so comprehensively both ways.

Who didn't achieve a majority in 2015?

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:21 pm Inexplicably though, I must add. It shows why ideology trumps competency. They've been terrible fora decade but were rewarded with a big f*** off majority because people like their ideology and excuse their incompetence.

faldO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:38 pm

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:20 pm Well, not really. They didn't achieve a majority in 2010, 2015 or 2017. But they did under Boris. No point in anyone on the left diminishing the significance of the UK saying no to the left and yes to the right, so comprehensively both ways.

Who didn't achieve a majority in 2015?

Oh yeah actually scrap that, Dave got a small majority of a few seats. Slipped my mind.