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PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:16 pm Exactly. It's easier for the Tories to stray left economically than it is for Labour to stray right socially, so that will most often tip the balance.

They don’t stray left economically. They might say they will at election time, but they don’t.

N.O

I did see your reply with stats, not sure if they re correct or not, I'll need to look it up and get back to you.

I would say your a full on socialist in the proper sense of the word. Loves a pair of cords, a sports jacket with elbow pads and a nice little tank top on underneath. Also your more likely to be seen walking down the road in your jesus creepers.

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 pm N.O

I did see your reply with stats, not sure if they re correct or not, I'll need to look it up and get back to you.

I would say your a full on socialist in the proper sense of the word. Loves a pair of cords, a sports jacket with elbow pads and a nice little tank top on underneath. Also your more likely to be seen walking down the road in your jesus creepers.

Definitely a Socialist rather than a Marxist (albeit Communism itself has many, many positives).

As for the dress sense - you seriously could not be wider of the mark! The nearest you've got is that I love flip-flops (with shorts and a t-shirt).

Fortunately (maybe?) although I'm 56, I've got a Misses that still keeps convincing me I'm 26.

Must be her nurse uniform that keeps me so young!

Chris Grayling to chair the intelligence and security committee - that level of we'll do whatever the f*** we want trolling actually gets some grudging respect from me.

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:24 am Chris Grayling to chair the intelligence and security committee - that level of we'll do whatever the f*** we want trolling actually gets some grudging respect from me.

Oh boy, I thought you were trolling, yet it true. The man is a walking disaster and an idiot of the highest order.

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 pm N.O


I would say your a full on socialist in the proper sense of the word. Loves a pair of cords, a sports jacket with elbow pads and a nice little tank top on underneath.

Oh Thory boy , you make me chuckle .

I worked in the Clothing industry for years at the Top end of the buisness, most of them Tories & the majority of them would look down there noses at denim as the uniform of the hooligan working classes .

They'd love a Corduroy or Slack or chino , topped off with a nice Harris tweed with elbow patches or something a little more expensive if they turned up there nose at the cheapness of a Harris.

Even ole Nigel wore his mustard coulored cotton drills .

You really do need to up your game if you want to enter the RICH CLUB.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:49 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 pm N.O


I would say your a full on socialist in the proper sense of the word. Loves a pair of cords, a sports jacket with elbow pads and a nice little tank top on underneath.

Oh Thory boy , you make me chuckle .

I worked in the Clothing industry for years at the Top end of the buisness, most of them Tories & the majority of them would look down there noses at denim as the uniform of the hooligan working classes .

They'd love a Corduroy or Slack or chino , topped off with a nice Harris tweed with elbow patches or something a little more expensive if they turned up there nose at the cheapness of a Harris.

Even ole Nigel wore his mustard coulored cotton drills .

You really do need to up your game if you want to enter the RICH CLUB.

I worked an the bottom end of the clothing business, using your definition, and at one point a pair of jeans matched with a nice shirt, smart jacket and brown shoes was very trendy and upmarket. Especially when a high fashion brand of jeans can set you back a few hundred notes.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:17 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:49 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 pm N.O


I would say your a full on socialist in the proper sense of the word. Loves a pair of cords, a sports jacket with elbow pads and a nice little tank top on underneath.

Oh Thory boy , you make me chuckle .

I worked in the Clothing industry for years at the Top end of the buisness, most of them Tories & the majority of them would look down there noses at denim as the uniform of the hooligan working classes .

They'd love a Corduroy or Slack or chino , topped off with a nice Harris tweed with elbow patches or something a little more expensive if they turned up there nose at the cheapness of a Harris.

Even ole Nigel wore his mustard coulored cotton drills .

You really do need to up your game if you want to enter the RICH CLUB.

I worked an the bottom end of the clothing business, using your definition, and at one point a pair of jeans matched with a nice shirt, smart jacket and brown shoes was very trendy and upmarket. Especially when a high fashion brand of jeans can set you back a few hundred notes.

Is your surname Buyrite?

BoniO wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:44 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:17 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:49 pm



Oh Thory boy , you make me chuckle .

I worked in the Clothing industry for years at the Top end of the buisness, most of them Tories & the majority of them would look down there noses at denim as the uniform of the hooligan working classes .

They'd love a Corduroy or Slack or chino , topped off with a nice Harris tweed with elbow patches or something a little more expensive if they turned up there nose at the cheapness of a Harris.

Even ole Nigel wore his mustard coulored cotton drills .

You really do need to up your game if you want to enter the RICH CLUB.

I worked an the bottom end of the clothing business, using your definition, and at one point a pair of jeans matched with a nice shirt, smart jacket and brown shoes was very trendy and upmarket. Especially when a high fashion brand of jeans can set you back a few hundred notes.

Is your surname Buyrite?

No
Mr Byrite & his brother was a Client of where i worked.

He just sold the sh*t stuff to the masses & spent there money
on classy stuff at ours & better

what happened to byrites? Must have gone bust surely?

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:14 pm what happened to byrites? Must have gone bust surely?

It renamed under the parent company Blue Inc - until they also went skint in 2016.

Here's some interesting background; outlining their east end roots:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Inc

I remember the Mister Byrite in Stratford Shopping Centre. Wow......they sold some tat!

Had no idea byrites and blue inc were the same thing (although it’s obvious now, thinking about it).

Barry & his brother both retired .
The other brother was the company accountant & lawyer
if i remember correctly , they were good mates with Joe Louis ( Spurs )
hence why Daniel was so well connected.
There was also a connection between a Starr family , i think but he left the
byrites board Just before it went big in the early 80s

Just to explain further
J Louis got rich when him & Ramsden put a run on the argie money & made fortunes.
He was also involved in the collapse of the ERM & again later with the advancing
crash early 2000s alledgedly .

I know its been covered on some money/financial tele documentary.

Dominic Cummings firm paid Vote Leave's AI firm £260,000

The Guardian has identified at least 13 central government contracts awarded to the firm since early 2018, collectively worth about £3m in revenue.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... irm-260000

Cummings and this godforesaken, lying, cheating, incompetent Tory Government, are clearly as bent as a nine bob note.

https://www.businessinsider.com/liz-tru ... ?r=US&IR=T


She just doesnt go away does she Bojo .

Blimey, a Tory that appears to be on the ball, that must be as rare as a Yeti.

Mikero

PM says face coverings ‘should be worn’ in shops
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53388444

Michael Gove says face coverings WON'T be mandatory in shops in England
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... gland.html

Boris Johnson says people 'should' wear face masks in shops - and could make it mandatory
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... d-22347058

So wear a mask.
Don't wear a mask.
Masks should be worn.
Masks could be worn.
It's not madatory.
Although, in a few days, it could be mandatory.

Seriously, this bunch of utter, clueless morons are below contempt. They haven't got a bloody clue what they are doing, have they.

To mask or not to mask that is the question.

On LBC this morning I didn’t catch where the lady was from, but apparently if masks are made to be worn people walked away from the shops concerned.

Speaking for myself here, I wouldn’t go in to a shop if I had to wear one, I just wouldn’t bother and just order online instead. However, I do get why one should be worn.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:28 pm To mask or not to mask that is the question.

On LBC this morning I didn’t catch where the lady was from, but apparently if masks are made to be worn people walked away from the shops concerned.

Speaking for myself here, I wouldn’t go in to a shop if I had to wear one, I just wouldn’t bother and just order online instead. However, I do get why one should be worn.

Didn't you say, just last Friday, that in a recent (apparent) 'charitable act', you were delivering PPE?

So you deliver PPE.......presumably as you know it has a beneficial purpose for either the wearer, for others, or possibly both.

However, you don't want to go into a shop wearing a mask.

No offence intended - but you really are quite a strange one at times dear chap.

I wear a mask in the hospitals, but I don’t like it, they are horrid. I speak to the people who wear them all day and everyone of them suffer with headaches, everyone.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:31 pm I speak to the people who wear them all day and everyone of them suffer with headaches, everyone.

Have you ever considered the possibility that's not entirely the fault of the mask?

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:42 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:31 pm I speak to the people who wear them all day and everyone of them suffer with headaches, everyone.

Have you ever considered the possibility that's not entirely the fault of the mask?

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:14 pm PM says face coverings ‘should be worn’ in shops
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53388444

Michael Gove says face coverings WON'T be mandatory in shops in England
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... gland.html

Boris Johnson says people 'should' wear face masks in shops - and could make it mandatory
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... d-22347058

So wear a mask.
Don't wear a mask.
Masks should be worn.
Masks could be worn.
It's not madatory.
Although, in a few days, it could be mandatory.

Seriously, this bunch of utter, clueless morons are below contempt. They haven't got a bloody clue what they are doing, have they.

The not fit for purpose WHO originally said you don't need to wear masks. Now they say you should. Incompetent Nuneatono?

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-no- ... google.com

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:27 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:14 pm PM says face coverings ‘should be worn’ in shops
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53388444

Michael Gove says face coverings WON'T be mandatory in shops in England
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... gland.html

Boris Johnson says people 'should' wear face masks in shops - and could make it mandatory
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... d-22347058

So wear a mask.
Don't wear a mask.
Masks should be worn.
Masks could be worn.
It's not madatory.
Although, in a few days, it could be mandatory.

Seriously, this bunch of utter, clueless morons are below contempt. They haven't got a bloody clue what they are doing, have they.

The not fit for purpose WHO originally said you don't need to wear masks. Now they say you should. Incompetent Nuneatono?

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-no- ... google.com

It's not the WHO that are governing the UK though, is it?

Moreover, that article was from April; and is completely irrelevant to what the Tory Party can't make their mind up about - over three months later.

I note that the WHO also state within that article (quote):
WHO said masks should be reserved for people who have COVID-19 or are in regular close contact with people who have the disease, like caretakers and hospital workers.

The organization also said that healthcare workers should use medical-grade masks, not makeshift cloth masks, when they can after one study showed that medical workers who used cloth masks were at increased risk of infection compared with those who used medical-grade masks

I'm sure that we do not have to revisit the abject failure of the Tory Party by not ensuring that adequate PPE was provided to both health and care workers.

Suffice to say that the WHO updated their advice on 5th June:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/ ... -know-now/

Particularly relevant is the statement (quote):
"The cornerstone of the response in every country must be to find, isolate, test and care for every case and to trace and quarantine every contact", said Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO Director-General.

Remind me again, how is the Tory Party progressing with our "World Beating App"?

Meanwhile, I know someone who flew into the UK from Cairo, last Saturday. No checks whatsoever at Heathrow; just a questionnaire asking where he would be self-isolating for 14 days. Early days - but nobody has called to check up on him.

It has been an utter farce how the Tory Party have mismanaged this Pandemic. Anyone who thinks otherwise, is basically living in a parallel universe.