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Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:03 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:51 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:22 pm

Fair play to the man. He has a big job to do repairing the damage of the last few years, but he is giving it a go.

No, this is about sorting out his own issues.

I thought he handled that particular point very well. The unconscious bias point. He is leading from the front, something in my opinion is very welcome. Making it available to others and removing the “asking others to do what he won’t do himself” stuff. Bravo.

Kier is showing himself to be a leader. Ready to support the Government in some stuff, challenging in other stuff. Grown up politics. He is streets ahead of the last two leaders. OK, he is now enjoying a honeymoon period, but he has a refreshing approach. The guy has potential and at long last Labour has a leader capable of building an election winning party at some point in the future. Unlikely in four years time.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:38 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:03 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:51 pm

No, this is about sorting out his own issues.

I thought he handled that particular point very well. The unconscious bias point. He is leading from the front, something in my opinion is very welcome. Making it available to others and removing the “asking others to do what he won’t do himself” stuff. Bravo.

Kier is showing himself to be a leader. Ready to support the Government in some stuff, challenging in other stuff. Grown up politics. He is streets ahead of the last two leaders. OK, he is now enjoying a honeymoon period, but he has a refreshing approach. The guy has potential and at long last Labour has a leader capable of building an election winning party at some point in the future. Unlikely in four years time.

Really don’t understand RedO. I listened to the Keir Starmer phone in. OK, it was more on the lines of a party political broadcast as he was never really challenged on his views. But he came across really well. Of course tougher times will come as we approach an election but the guy thus far is a credible leader.

The likes of Corbyn and Ed Milliband Will consign Labour to a party in opposition, a party of protest. Also rans. Plenty of noise but never getting into power where that can change things. Pointless. Starmer has the potential to change that. Why would any Labour Party supporter not want the chance to win an election?

The Corbyn approach to win an election has been trashed. The Blair approach to win an election has been proven. Not rocket science.

I agree the Labour Party is finished and the Conservative Government are doing very well.

Bluecap wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:37 pm I agree the Labour Party is finished and the Conservative Government are doing very well.

Really?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.markpa ... ecard/amp/

This is just 7 months in to an 80 seat majority. If this is the 'honeymoon period' then I can't wait to see the messy divorce.

Meanwhile, last week, Starmer QC overtook the Etonian Spaffer as to who would make the best Prime Minister.

Tories doing well?

Labour Party finished?

In your dreams!

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:58 pm

Bluecap wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:37 pm I agree the Labour Party is finished and the Conservative Government are doing very well.

Really?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.markpa ... ecard/amp/

This is just 7 months in to an 80 seat majority. If this is the 'honeymoon period' then I can't wait to see the messy divorce.

Meanwhile, last week, Starmer QC overtook the Etonian Spaffer as to who would make the best Prime Minister.

Tories doing well?

Labour Party finished?

In your dreams!

Oh Pevans

Did Starmer answer the PM’s question put to him on schools being safe? As per the Nick Ferrari interview the other day? If so what did he say as I missed the show today. Thanks.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:33 pm Did Starmer answer the PM’s question put to him on schools being safe? As per the Nick Ferrari interview the other day? If so what did he say as I missed the show today. Thanks.

They’re keen to work with the government on this.

Cheers.

This is something I’ve said before cross bench workings to bring the greater good to all people. We can but hope and dream I guess.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:58 pm

Bluecap wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:37 pm I agree the Labour Party is finished and the Conservative Government are doing very well.

Really?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.markpa ... ecard/amp/

This is just 7 months in to an 80 seat majority. If this is the 'honeymoon period' then I can't wait to see the messy divorce.

Meanwhile, last week, Starmer QC overtook the Etonian Spaffer as to who would make the best Prime Minister.

Tories doing well?

Labour Party finished?

In your dreams!

It just goes to show what a difference having a decent leader makes. Corbyn/Milliband - The wasted years. I hope people are starting to realise this now. Taken a long time for the penny to drop.

When you have the likes of Clarkson, Farage and Dohnut saying what a good leader you are, you have to take a long, hard look at yourself.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:58 pm

Bluecap wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:37 pm I agree the Labour Party is finished and the Conservative Government are doing very well.

Really?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.markpa ... ecard/amp/

This is just 7 months in to an 80 seat majority. If this is the 'honeymoon period' then I can't wait to see the messy divorce.

Meanwhile, last week, Starmer QC overtook the Etonian Spaffer as to who would make the best Prime Minister.

Tories doing well?

Labour Party finished?

In your dreams!

I see irony is lost on you

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:37 pm When you have the likes of Clarkson, Farage and Dohnut saying what a good leader you are, you have to take a long, hard look at yourself.

NuneatonO post says it all. And that is saying something,

Ex Labour MP downloaded child porn https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-53320424

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:33 pm Ex Labour MP downloaded child porn https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-53320424

Whose a naughty Tory then. Oh, hang on. He’s not a Tory. My mistake.

Absolute scum. He needs smashing up to bits, these people are the filth of the earth.

What I will add is he is not the only one doing it either then or now who reside or have resided in the house. I really believed in Watson when he was going after the nonces in either house really and then I guess he was warned off and he did as he was told.

Round them all up and throw away the keys. Scum the lot of them.

Shadow Chancellor put on a good show, very clear and assured, unlike the last bunch of shadows.

Mikero

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:50 pm Absolute scum. He needs smashing up to bits, these people are the filth of the earth.

What I will add is he is not the only one doing it either then or now who reside or have resided in the house. I really believed in Watson when he was going after the nonces in either house really and then I guess he was warned off and he did as he was told.

Round them all up and throw away the keys. Scum the lot of them.

On a similar note I find the whole 'the elites/illuminati/whatever are a group of international nonces' a really particular and odd claim. Is the thought process that because they have the power and are corrupted by it, they think they can get away with anything, even this sort of crime? Or is it that anyone is capable of that if they rise to such lofty position?

Not disputing your post as obviously there is history in this for certain. Just I keep reading stuff about it on every form of social media, tied into this thread that anti-Labour types like to share that rubbish text message style viral post about Starmer not prosecuting Savile.

Politicos there is the Starmer one and the Asian grooming gangs as well.

Texts circulating via the British flag twitter crew? Is the grooming gangs one saying Starmer let it go etc?

You're a man of YouTube and other media and know about this stuff - what is the international elites paedophile gang stuff all about?

Thatcher’s mate Savile.

Competent, likeable, decisive: Keir Starmer beating Boris Johnson on all counts

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... all-counts

"Captain Hindsight" still not convincing the voters though...doesn't seem like the "competent, likeable, decisive, knee-bending, wealth tax-flip-flopping" Sir Kier is winning on all fronts yet...

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar ... 36-8-9-jul
Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention figures

The latest Times/YouGov voting intention results suggest that the race between the two main parties has stabilised. After an initial period of excitement where Labour narrowed the gap from 20 points to just six in the space of three weeks, the Tory lead climbed back slightly to 8-10 points and has stayed at about this level ever since.

Early days though, quite happy to give him time to sort it out.

100 days of Starmer QC.

Quite strange that you refer to Starmer as Captain Hindsight; when all that Johnson has been doing recently, is bringing in measures months after the horse has bolted.

There's plenty of time for further self-implosion with Spaffer & Co.

Pandemic mismanagement aside, I'm absolutely convinced that as from 1st Jan 2021, we will see the greatest demise of the Tory Party in its history.

I honestly cannot wait!

Agreed. I have absolutely no idea what will happen in the next few days, weeks and months, let alone from 1st Jan 2021!

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:45 am Agreed. I have absolutely no idea what will happen in the next few days, weeks and months, let alone from 1st Jan 2021!

I can Guarentee youll spout some bullsh*t on a Labour thread when they
Have no power in running the country , but youll willingle leave the tory thread
alone , while they manage to f*ck the.country up even more .