Independent Leyton Orient Forum

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:17 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:10 am The Tories are responsible for most things wrong in our world. Their time for reckoning is nigh.

Shame those at the heart of the Labour Party didn’t have this view back in 2017.

Unfair on Jeremy to say that.

That doesn't even make any sense?

This is getting really bad now. I'm constantly ploughing through news feeds and social media to find something Sirkier has done so that I can criticise him. But there's nothing. Absolutely nowt. He just isn't doing or saying anything. I guess that's one way to stop those left of centre from laying into him - stand aside and keep quiet, whilst the tories burn the country to the ground. The strong, adult, forensic opposition this country has been crying out for.

Shrieking never does any good. Considered intelligent ripostes are the order of the day.

Time for all those with an axe to grind to get behind our elected leader, Sir I-Keir.

Let’s embrace this new era with optimism and put the dismal incompetence of 2019 behind us.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:48 am Shrieking never does any good. Considered intelligent ripostes are the order of the day.

Mate, I'd take any sort of riposte. Anything.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:51 am Time for all those with an axe to grind to get behind our elected leader, Sir I-Keir.

Let’s embrace this new era with optimism and put the dismal incompetence of 2019 behind us.

He's no longer my leader.

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:03 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:48 am Shrieking never does any good. Considered intelligent ripostes are the order of the day.

Mate, I'd take any sort of riposte. Anything.

I hear what you are saying. I too would like some more aggression.

That will come.

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:04 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:51 am Time for all those with an axe to grind to get behind our elected leader, Sir I-Keir.

Let’s embrace this new era with optimism and put the dismal incompetence of 2019 behind us.

He's no longer my leader.

Don’t tell me you are now BlueO?

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:18 am

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:04 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:51 am Time for all those with an axe to grind to get behind our elected leader, Sir I-Keir.

Let’s embrace this new era with optimism and put the dismal incompetence of 2019 behind us.

He's no longer my leader.

Don’t tell me you are now BlueO?

Mate he's always been a tory, just you couldn't see it.

Stand easy, socialists. The other Jezza, obnoxious petrolhead Clarkson, has declared on Times Radio he's now open to voting Labour for the first time ever. It's all going to plan for Sir Haircut!

Lol what a flannel

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:37 am Lol what a flannel

Jesus wept again.

That's one helluva cultural divide sirKier is trying to bridge.

Feel for him,

He's got to keep Jeremy Clarkson and the woke bros happy if he wants to stand a chance of forming a minority government with the SNP and Plaid

It's twenty years since Labour won the popular vote just in England. Never mind the Scotch and Welsh, he's got to reconcile the interests of a perennially unemployed fisherman's grandson from Grimsby with a middle class blue-haired BLM/Trans-rights screaming activist from Hammersmith.

f*** knows how anyone is ever going to manage that.

"unconscious bias training"

Some of that needed around here, although some will never be able to believe they have got it.

Mikero

"f*** knows how anyone is ever going to manage that."

Easy Regionalise the Labour Party and have a different set of policies in each area, suits everyone then.

Mikero

Yeah, not entirely sure whats the problem with unconscious bias training. Its one of the big issues with things like recruitment. Good to see a leader showing venerability and trying to improve themselves.

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:05 pm It's twenty years since Labour won the popular vote just in England. Never mind the Scotch and Welsh, he's got to reconcile the interests of a perennially unemployed fisherman's grandson from Grimsby with a middle class blue-haired BLM/Trans-rights screaming activist from Hammersmith.

f*** knows how anyone is ever going to manage that.

Couldn't he just take them all out for nice latte and muffin?

Don’t think they sell lattes in Grimsby.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:35 pm Yeah, not entirely sure whats the problem with unconscious bias training. Its one of the big issues with things like recruitment. Good to see a leader showing venerability and trying to improve themselves.

Fair play to the man. He has a big job to do repairing the damage of the last few years, but he is giving it a go.

Having left the Party because of the direction its going after 40 years its a joy not having to justify to people their actions.
Its great when my Tory Mates (I have a few) start saying to me how bad Labour are at the moment and me agreeing with them.
The look on the faces that I dont bite anymore, I then usually say I think the Conservative Party are doing a job.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:22 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:35 pm Yeah, not entirely sure whats the problem with unconscious bias training. Its one of the big issues with things like recruitment. Good to see a leader showing venerability and trying to improve themselves.

Fair play to the man. He has a big job to do repairing the damage of the last few years, but he is giving it a go.

No, this is about sorting out his own issues.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:51 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:22 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:35 pm Yeah, not entirely sure whats the problem with unconscious bias training. Its one of the big issues with things like recruitment. Good to see a leader showing venerability and trying to improve themselves.

Fair play to the man. He has a big job to do repairing the damage of the last few years, but he is giving it a go.

No, this is about sorting out his own issues.

I thought he handled that particular point very well. The unconscious bias point. He is leading from the front, something in my opinion is very welcome. Making it available to others and removing the “asking others to do what he won’t do himself” stuff. Bravo.

Kier is showing himself to be a leader. Ready to support the Government in some stuff, challenging in other stuff. Grown up politics. He is streets ahead of the last two leaders. OK, he is now enjoying a honeymoon period, but he has a refreshing approach. The guy has potential and at long last Labour has a leader capable of building an election winning party at some point in the future. Unlikely in four years time.