Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:00 am
Schools could reopen in 3 weeks? Good, but lazy teachers won't like it.
These lazy teachers are almost as lazy as your wumming.
No way my lot are going back in 3 weeks time.
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Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:22 am
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:31 am
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:45 am
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:46 am
Why have they run it tho?
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:19 am
I don't subscribe to the Times so can't see it but Sky has a story on the Times article. It just seems to back up what has been said by many before, even on this MB. No need to run through all the failings again but it's now fully recognised how truly dreadful and uncaring this government is. That's bad enough but then to compound this by lying through their teeth and refusing to take personal ownership is even worse.
I'm currently stranded in France and they're not doing so brilliantly here either but they're much better organised. The lockdown is much better organised and policed. When Macron extended the lockdown last week he also apologised for some of his, and the governments, early failures during the crisis. He appeared open and honest about it but pledged that he and his government had learned lessons from this. French people don't suffer fools readily but Macron's ratings shot up after this. Can anyone imagine Boris or his cronies being so honest? Priti Patel would explode before she managed to utter an apology - mind you I'd quite like to see that.
I'm currently stranded in France and they're not doing so brilliantly here either but they're much better organised. The lockdown is much better organised and policed. When Macron extended the lockdown last week he also apologised for some of his, and the governments, early failures during the crisis. He appeared open and honest about it but pledged that he and his government had learned lessons from this. French people don't suffer fools readily but Macron's ratings shot up after this. Can anyone imagine Boris or his cronies being so honest? Priti Patel would explode before she managed to utter an apology - mind you I'd quite like to see that.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:21 am
Reported.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:22 am
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:23 am
A link to the Time article that avoids the paywall:
https://archive.is/20200418182037/https ... -hq3b9tlgh
https://archive.is/20200418182037/https ... -hq3b9tlgh
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:47 am
Plenty to be angry about in there
Boris skipping meetings
Boris 12 day countryside holiday in February
UK manufacturers not contacted til April to make PPE
PPE sent to China
PPE emergency contracts all with Chinese companies
Boris skipping meetings
Boris 12 day countryside holiday in February
UK manufacturers not contacted til April to make PPE
PPE sent to China
PPE emergency contracts all with Chinese companies
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:57 am
Plenty to add to that list too:Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:47 am Plenty to be angry about in there
Boris skipping meetings
Boris 12 day countryside holiday in February
UK manufacturers not contacted til April to make PPE
PPE sent to China
PPE emergency contracts all with Chinese companies
Letting our robust Pandemic plan fall apart due to austerity measures and focus on Brexit
Ignoring warnings from the 2016 exercise re lack of PPE kit and ventilators
Boris being a weekday only PM - weekends are not working days.....
Late lockdown despite plenty of scientific advice calling for it weeks before it happened
Early treatment of the virus as just a flu despite the data coming out of China
And there's more and more, and more in there. It would be much simpler to list what, if anything, they did right.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:57 am
Agree with most of what you're saying but I don't think this is because the Tories didn't care about the consequences. It's because they are blasé, control freaks and incompetent.BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:19 am I don't subscribe to the Times so can't see it but Sky has a story on the Times article. It just seems to back up what has been said by many before, even on this MB. No need to run through all the failings again but it's now fully recognised how truly dreadful and uncaring this government is. That's bad enough but then to compound this by lying through their teeth and refusing to take personal ownership is even worse.
I'm currently stranded in France and they're not doing so brilliantly here either but they're much better organised. The lockdown is much better organised and policed. When Macron extended the lockdown last week he also apologised for some of his, and the governments, early failures during the crisis. He appeared open and honest about it but pledged that he and his government had learned lessons from this. French people don't suffer fools readily but Macron's ratings shot up after this. Can anyone imagine Boris or his cronies being so honest? Priti Patel would explode before she managed to utter an apology - mind you I'd quite like to see that.
Also wanna contest this do lockdown better by banning people from going out at all bollox. It'll be one of the arse covering tactics of the government to blame the tiny minority who aren't abiding by the shutdown. Germany is doing the exact same thing as us in regards to letting people go out, but not experiencing the same crisis as we are. And France will do this 'better' because their policing culture is more experienced in the kind of martial shutdown than I imagine you'd actually want in the UK.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:06 am
Fair enough, I'd agree with you re the Tories abilities. I do believe though that they don't give a rats arse about about us plebs, until it puts them in a bad light.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:57 amAgree with most of what you're saying but I don't think this is because the Tories didn't care about the consequences. It's because they are blasé, control freaks and incompetent.BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:19 am I don't subscribe to the Times so can't see it but Sky has a story on the Times article. It just seems to back up what has been said by many before, even on this MB. No need to run through all the failings again but it's now fully recognised how truly dreadful and uncaring this government is. That's bad enough but then to compound this by lying through their teeth and refusing to take personal ownership is even worse.
I'm currently stranded in France and they're not doing so brilliantly here either but they're much better organised. The lockdown is much better organised and policed. When Macron extended the lockdown last week he also apologised for some of his, and the governments, early failures during the crisis. He appeared open and honest about it but pledged that he and his government had learned lessons from this. French people don't suffer fools readily but Macron's ratings shot up after this. Can anyone imagine Boris or his cronies being so honest? Priti Patel would explode before she managed to utter an apology - mind you I'd quite like to see that.
Also wanna contest this do lockdown better by banning people from going out at all bollox. It'll be one of the arse covering tactics of the government to blame the tiny minority who aren't abiding by the shutdown. Germany is doing the exact same thing as us in regards to letting people go out, but not experiencing the same crisis as we are. And France will do this 'better' because their policing culture is more experienced in the kind of martial shutdown than I imagine you'd actually want in the UK.
Re the French approach, yes they have many more paramilitaries to enforce a lockdown but the real difference between here and the UK is the clarity on when you can and can't go out. It's not more restrictive than the UK it's just better explained and thus more acceptable to the French people and thus more effective. Plus having a government that is honest enough to admit that it made mistakes and learn from them - that's 180 degrees away from Boris & chums.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:27 am
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:24 pm
596 deaths and 5850 new cases
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:41 pm
Taking Sunday figures with a pinch of salt
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:00 pm
The Murdochs are a big part of the problem worldwide.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:12 pm
Times & the Mail want Gove in charge .Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:27 amReally can’t fathom what game they are playing either.
So does Rhys Fogg id say.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:19 pm
Anyone in charge would be a positive.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:50 pm
Have they all got over the Cummings love-in then?
Whatever happened to him after he 'had symptoms' of Covid? If he did have it, it's proof that it can jump the species barrier.
Whatever happened to him after he 'had symptoms' of Covid? If he did have it, it's proof that it can jump the species barrier.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:17 pm
The B word comes up a lot, doesn't it?
I've always suspected it would be a disaster, but I didn't expect this.
I've always suspected it would be a disaster, but I didn't expect this.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:58 pm
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:18 pm
They have been at the forefront on spreading misinformation and downplaying events and dismissing accountability.
Stunning even by Piers Morgan standards.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:56 pm
If anyone is interested in the process around creating the vaccine being worked on at Oxford Uni there is a very interesting interview with Professor Sarah Gilbert by Andrew Marr this morning, https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... w-19042020, about 16 mins in.
She is quite bullish about the prospects, others less so. I wish her and her team success.
She is quite bullish about the prospects, others less so. I wish her and her team success.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:22 pm
Apparently we have now passed the peak of the first wave of this virus. Sounds like some good news at last.