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Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:50 am**

Hopefully the first step to wider recognition of what’s going on there

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021 ... SApp_Other

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:53 am**

INCOMING

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:59 am**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:06 am I noticed NuneatonO started this thread. Havent seen him around for months. Anyone know where he is?

Still no sign of him? Has he buggered off to Oz or has he regenerated under a new name?

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:00 am**

He's probably in his nuclear shelter

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:07 am**

Always a hot potato, this one. I still wouldn’t call Israel an apartheid state akin to the old Saffer racist ways within its declared national boundaries, but the suppression of Palestinians and settlements within the Occupied West Bank, and the locked-down Gaza Strip are pushing that way, where Israel has effective control of movement of what is, to all effects, a One State entity with 3 zones of local government. Plus the Israeli State tolerates extreme rabid politicians who are openly apartheid racist towards non-Jews, and Likud even invites some of these wingnuts into coalitions when it suits them.

The quicker Bibi steps aside (or is kicked out), the better.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:11 am**

slacker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:07 am Always a hot potato, this one. I still wouldn’t call Israel an apartheid state akin to the old Saffer racist ways within its declared national boundaries, but the suppression of Palestinians and settlements within the Occupied West Bank, and the locked-down Gaza Strip are pushing that way, where Israel has effective control of movement of what is, to all effects, a One State entity with 3 zones of local government. Plus the Israeli State tolerates extreme rabid politicians who are openly apartheid racist towards non-Jews, and Likud even invites some of these wingnuts into coalitions when it suits them.

The quicker Bibi steps aside (or is kicked out), the better.

Agree. And the more my fellow Jews dogmatically defend Israel because and call anyone who doesn't an 'anti-semite' because we all have to stick together, apparently, the more empowered they will feel to push their luck.

Feels like a 'it's clear with hindsight it was going this way' situation in 10-20 years time when there has to be action when it's pretty obvious where this is heading without a shift in approach from the Israelis.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:39 am**

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:11 am
slacker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:07 am Always a hot potato, this one. I still wouldn’t call Israel an apartheid state akin to the old Saffer racist ways within its declared national boundaries, but the suppression of Palestinians and settlements within the Occupied West Bank, and the locked-down Gaza Strip are pushing that way, where Israel has effective control of movement of what is, to all effects, a One State entity with 3 zones of local government. Plus the Israeli State tolerates extreme rabid politicians who are openly apartheid racist towards non-Jews, and Likud even invites some of these wingnuts into coalitions when it suits them.

The quicker Bibi steps aside (or is kicked out), the better.
Agree. And the more my fellow Jews dogmatically defend Israel because and call anyone who doesn't an 'anti-semite' because we all have to stick together, apparently, the more empowered they will feel to push their luck.

Feels like a 'it's clear with hindsight it was going this way' situation in 10-20 years time when there has to be action when it's pretty obvious where this is heading without a shift in approach from the Israelis.

Fascism doesn't start with the concentration camps. That's where it ends.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:42 am**

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:59 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:06 am I noticed NuneatonO started this thread. Havent seen him around for months. Anyone know where he is?
Still no sign of him? Has he buggered off to Oz or has he regenerated under a new name?

I believe he may have withdrawn for health reasons. Dealing with the stupids/WUM's and racists on here can get to you.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:30 pm**

BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:42 am
I believe he may have withdrawn for health reasons. Dealing with the stupids/WUM's and racists on here can get to you.

Get off your high horse. According to the majority every poster on here fits in to one of those 3 titles.
It’s a forum ffs not somewhere you go for highbrow debate

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:46 pm**

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:50 am Hopefully the first step to wider recognition of what’s going on there

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021 ... SApp_Other

I suppose it had to move this way as this was stopped in its tracks

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ettlements

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:01 pm**

BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:42 am
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:59 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:06 am I noticed NuneatonO started this thread. Havent seen him around for months. Anyone know where he is?
Still no sign of him? Has he buggered off to Oz or has he regenerated under a new name?
As it's about Israel, again, I am guessing that he is you, using an another alias.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:10 pm**

Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:01 pm
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:59 am

Still no sign of him? Has he buggered off to Oz or has he regenerated under a new name?
As it's about Israel, again, I am guessing that he is you, using an another alias.

Me?? Oh Dear.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:11 pm**

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:30 pm
BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:42 am
I believe he may have withdrawn for health reasons. Dealing with the stupids/WUM's and racists on here can get to you.
Get off your high horse. According to the majority every poster on here fits in to one of those 3 titles.
It’s a forum ffs not somewhere you go for highbrow debate

"According to the majority" every poster on here is Stupid, a WUM, or a Racist. Blimey, it's worse than I ever imagined!

Which one(s) do you fit into then? Or are you going for a hat-trick?

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:14 pm**

If everyone chips in, I could borrow my mates glider fly it from Epping and drop a couple of cans of petrol on the Israeli parliament - that'll put paid to their rotten tricks

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:24 pm**

Top of my list for a foreign holiday given they've got their act together with vaccines (like us).

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:50 pm**

No, not you Ornchurch, COYOS.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:51 pm**

PutneyO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:14 pm If everyone chips in, I could borrow my mates glider fly it from Epping and drop a couple of cans of petrol on the Israeli parliament - that'll put paid to their rotten tricks

Really, what a first class clown you are.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:41 pm**

Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:50 pm No, not you Ornchurch, COYOS.

The boards resident Zionist speaks!!!!!

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:25 pm**

It's not a Zionist sentiment, you fool, it's just you're obsessional hatred for a particular country. Jeez. FFS, give it rest. Move on.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:33 pm**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:06 pm Israel has been getting away with murder ( literally) for over 70 years, and the rest of the world has just shrugged their shoulders, and what is proposed next week, will have the same reaction
Israel knows it can steal more Palestinian land, otherwise they wouldnt do it.
There will be a few cursory words said in Parliament, and then it will be forgotten

Stunned by such a sweeping and ignorant statement. Remember this country England was the one who gave them the land and took it from the Palestinians. Remember many countries do horrendous things to other nations and we carry on with our lives.

However when Israel want to take ownership of land not for anything but to get their land back you scream how unfair it is.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:39 pm**

Frogger wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:33 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:06 pm Israel has been getting away with murder ( literally) for over 70 years, and the rest of the world has just shrugged their shoulders, and what is proposed next week, will have the same reaction
Israel knows it can steal more Palestinian land, otherwise they wouldnt do it.
There will be a few cursory words said in Parliament, and then it will be forgotten
Stunned by such a sweeping and ignorant statement. Remember this country England was the one who gave them the land and took it from the Palestinians. Remember many countries do horrendous things to other nations and we carry on with our lives.

However when Israel want to take ownership of land not for anything but to get their land back you scream how unfair it is.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:45 pm**

Frogger wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:33 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:06 pm Israel has been getting away with murder ( literally) for over 70 years, and the rest of the world has just shrugged their shoulders, and what is proposed next week, will have the same reaction
Israel knows it can steal more Palestinian land, otherwise they wouldnt do it.
There will be a few cursory words said in Parliament, and then it will be forgotten
Stunned by such a sweeping and ignorant statement. Remember this country England was the one who gave them the land and took it from the Palestinians. Remember many countries do horrendous things to other nations and we carry on with our lives.

However when Israel want to take ownership of land not for anything but to get their land back you scream how unfair it is.

Bloody hell, you certainly missed your history lessons in school.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:21 pm**

Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:25 pm It's not a Zionist sentiment, you fool, it's just you're obsessional hatred for a particular country. Jeez. FFS, give it rest. Move on.

Could do with a permaban really.

Especially when you consider his track record and then calling someone a c#nt got the same ban as someone calling him an ostrich. Though that probably tells you what an utter tit Admin is.

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:07 pm**

Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:25 pm It's not a Zionist sentiment, you fool, it's just you're obsessional hatred for a particular country. Jeez. FFS, give it rest. Move on.

Well said C D

Posted: **Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:29 pm**

slacker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:07 am Always a hot potato, this one. I still wouldn’t call Israel an apartheid state akin to the old Saffer racist ways within its declared national boundaries, but the suppression of Palestinians and settlements within the Occupied West Bank, and the locked-down Gaza Strip are pushing that way, where Israel has effective control of movement of what is, to all effects, a One State entity with 3 zones of local government. Plus the Israeli State tolerates extreme rabid politicians who are openly apartheid racist towards non-Jews, and Likud even invites some of these wingnuts into coalitions when it suits them.

The quicker Bibi steps aside (or is kicked out), the better.

I’m too young to remember, obviously but were there people defending South Africa back in the 80s as not being an apartheid state like they are now with Israel?

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