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See gshaws comment. ”put it into context they took their foot off the gas at 3-0 up”. so according to him that’s the only reason we were allowed to do what we did, nothing to do with us at allMistadobalina wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:26 pm Such an odd game. First 15 minutes we were abysmal, I can't remember ever seeing a start like that. Every Bolton attack looked like a goal was going to come. Happe, James and Beckles were dreadful.
And then second half it all clicked, absolutely all over them. They barely hung on to that, two genuinely great chances to equalise at the death.
Wellens point after the Cheltenham game about us having an extremely fit squad rings true. We get a lot of late goals and create a lot of pressure at the end.
This happened before. He thinks he’s going to get a big move and his form goes to sh*t.
Pratley made it to a battle which Bolton couldn't hack. I was livid after the first ten and Wellens seriously f*cked up the first half, but a team that's strolling to a victory don't cling on at the end making last minute blocks. We were genuinely unlucky not to get a point on balance.B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:34 pmSee gshaws comment. ”put it into context they took their foot off the gas at 3-0 up”. so according to him that’s the only reason we were allowed to do what we did, nothing to do with us at allMistadobalina wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:26 pm Such an odd game. First 15 minutes we were abysmal, I can't remember ever seeing a start like that. Every Bolton attack looked like a goal was going to come. Happe, James and Beckles were dreadful.
And then second half it all clicked, absolutely all over them. They barely hung on to that, two genuinely great chances to equalise at the death.
Wellens point after the Cheltenham game about us having an extremely fit squad rings true. We get a lot of late goals and create a lot of pressure at the end.
You said “The players he brought in you mean”. So, does he have a say or did he bring them in? Its one or the other.Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:46 pmWhat part of Wellens has the say in your head do you not grasp.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:37 pmWhat part of ‘transfer committee’ is your brain not understanding?Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:19 pm
Yes he did and you know it, you’re just being pedantic, so we don’t score a lot of goals last season and he brings in a plethora of midfielders when everyone knew we were crying out for forwards.i respect your views but I don’t agree.
Must be expecting a move before every game thenBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:36 pmThis happened before. He thinks he’s going to get a big move and his form goes to sh*t.
I can see what he was trying to do - rest key players in a busy period. But it backfired in two ways. El Miz is undroppable because not only does he hold our team together, but he makes others around him look better. Secondly, el miz got injured. Bad luck, nothing you can do about that.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:14 pm Think you have got to put today down to Richie, wrong starting eleven our midfield killed us first half, got the right players on second half and we bossed it and could have got a point.
Richies learning too I guess.
He’s had some very average performances recently, he’s not undroppableRich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:53 pmI can see what he was trying to do - rest key players in a busy period. But it backfired in two ways. El Miz is undroppable because not only does he hold our team together, but he makes others around him look better. Secondly, el miz got injured. Bad luck, nothing you can do about that.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:14 pm Think you have got to put today down to Richie, wrong starting eleven our midfield killed us first half, got the right players on second half and we bossed it and could have got a point.
Richies learning too I guess.
The squad isnt deep enough for rotation and if Richie wants to do that he needs to tell ling and co to pull their finger out in Jan
As I say, he makes others around him look better, even when he isn’t on top formBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:00 pmHe’s had some very average performances recently, he’s not undroppableRich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:53 pmI can see what he was trying to do - rest key players in a busy period. But it backfired in two ways. El Miz is undroppable because not only does he hold our team together, but he makes others around him look better. Secondly, el miz got injured. Bad luck, nothing you can do about that.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:14 pm Think you have got to put today down to Richie, wrong starting eleven our midfield killed us first half, got the right players on second half and we bossed it and could have got a point.
Richies learning too I guess.
The squad isnt deep enough for rotation and if Richie wants to do that he needs to tell ling and co to pull their finger out in Jan
Did you not witness the first 45 minutes today?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:00 pmHe’s had some very average performances recently, he’s not undroppableRich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:53 pmI can see what he was trying to do - rest key players in a busy period. But it backfired in two ways. El Miz is undroppable because not only does he hold our team together, but he makes others around him look better. Secondly, el miz got injured. Bad luck, nothing you can do about that.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:14 pm Think you have got to put today down to Richie, wrong starting eleven our midfield killed us first half, got the right players on second half and we bossed it and could have got a point.
Richies learning too I guess.
The squad isnt deep enough for rotation and if Richie wants to do that he needs to tell ling and co to pull their finger out in Jan
Unfair to pin the fault on Happe, James and Beckles. They were under relentless pressure because the midfield and our front 4 were just being walked through.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:26 pm Such an odd game. First 15 minutes we were abysmal, I can't remember ever seeing a start like that. Every Bolton attack looked like a goal was going to come. Happe, James and Beckles were dreadful.
And then second half it all clicked, absolutely all over them. They barely hung on to that, two genuinely great chances to equalise at the death.
Wellens point after the Cheltenham game about us having an extremely fit squad rings true. We get a lot of late goals and create a lot of pressure at the end.
No, but I’ve seen some bad 90 min performances recently. He was on the bench because of a knock and now it looks like he’s injured.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:09 pmDid you not witness the first 45 minutes today?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:00 pmHe’s had some very average performances recently, he’s not undroppableRich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:53 pm
I can see what he was trying to do - rest key players in a busy period. But it backfired in two ways. El Miz is undroppable because not only does he hold our team together, but he makes others around him look better. Secondly, el miz got injured. Bad luck, nothing you can do about that.
The squad isnt deep enough for rotation and if Richie wants to do that he needs to tell ling and co to pull their finger out in Jan
He’s undroppable.
James absolutely lost for the opener, Happe to Beckles for the second was a disaster. As much as Bolton were overwhelming us, individual errors at the back cost us.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:13 pmUnfair to pin the fault on Happe, James and Beckles. They were under relentless pressure because the midfield and our front 4 were just being walked through.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:26 pm Such an odd game. First 15 minutes we were abysmal, I can't remember ever seeing a start like that. Every Bolton attack looked like a goal was going to come. Happe, James and Beckles were dreadful.
And then second half it all clicked, absolutely all over them. They barely hung on to that, two genuinely great chances to equalise at the death.
Wellens point after the Cheltenham game about us having an extremely fit squad rings true. We get a lot of late goals and create a lot of pressure at the end.
Beckles made two really good blocks in one attack before they even scored their first.
I've always said that we have enough goal power for this division, or at least that we should be scoring more goals than we do. Our poor performances and results this season are as much to do with the manager as it is the players.
So being an Orient supporter for last 30+ years, been a season ticket holder for season after season, followed The O’s all over the country, but chose not to go to Bolton, doesn't make me a proper Orient fan
Only 30+years ?Stan1972 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:04 pmSo being an Orient supporter for last 30+ years, been a season ticket holder for season after season, followed The O’s all over the country, but chose not to go to Bolton, doesn't make me a proper Orient fan
Spot on !Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:53 pmI can see what he was trying to do - rest key players in a busy period. But it backfired in two ways. El Miz is undroppable because not only does he hold our team together, but he makes others around him look better. Secondly, el miz got injured. Bad luck, nothing you can do about that.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:14 pm Think you have got to put today down to Richie, wrong starting eleven our midfield killed us first half, got the right players on second half and we bossed it and could have got a point.
Richies learning too I guess.
The squad isnt deep enough for rotation and if Richie wants to do that he needs to tell ling and co to pull their finger out in Jan
100% agree - our most important player by a Country mile.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:59 am I thought yesterday showed how important El Miz is, even though he hasn't been as outstanding this season, he is the key player in the whole side, a big issue is if he isn't here next year, either need to replace him or strengthen the other players
