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Re: mini budget

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:53 pm
by Max B Gold
Truss is in the clear its all the BofE's fault.


Re: mini budget

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:04 pm
by The Mindsweep
Max B Gold wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:53 pm Truss is in the clear its all the BofE's fault.

There are people that you disagree with, some you may find unpleasant and then there are some who are just evil. He is one

Re: mini budget

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:19 pm
by Max B Gold
The Mindsweep wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:04 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:53 pm Truss is in the clear its all the BofE's fault.

There are people that you disagree with, some you may find unpleasant and then there are some who are just evil. He is one
At least he's honest.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:45 pm
by Adz
He's also right. Central banks around the world have gamed the system to keep inflation low by adjusting the basket to suit their means. IMHO inflation baskets need to be split out on what you need and what you want, and then you can get a real view of the cost of living. But that's not in the central banks interest.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:33 am
by Dunners
I agree with Lilico that interest rates have been too low for too long. But that was also for political convenience too. So blaming the central bank is pure scapegoating.

If HM Treasury wanted to pursue a course of action that would make the UK an outlier from the G7, they should have had the foresight to coordinate with the BoE so the latter was able to factor that into it's plans.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:37 am
by Dunners
"Sh*t! Everyone thinks we're incompetent. Better do some culture warring PDQ to distract the thickos..."


Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:04 am
by Adz
Dunners wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:33 am I agree with Lilico that interest rates have been too low for too long. But that was also for political convenience too. So blaming the central bank is pure scapegoating.

If HM Treasury wanted to pursue a course of action that would make the UK an outlier from the G7, they should have had the foresight to coordinate with the BoE so the latter was able to factor that into it's plans.
100%. It's very amateurish from the Treasury.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:02 am
by The Mindsweep
Oh dear, Truss is speaking


Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:08 am
by Max Fowler
Adz wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:45 pm He's also right. Central banks around the world have gamed the system to keep inflation low by adjusting the basket to suit their means. IMHO inflation baskets need to be split out on what you need and what you want, and then you can get a real view of the cost of living. But that's not in the central banks interest.
I think he was being taken to task above about his lack of interest in equality.

I'm assuming you don't make him right on that one.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:47 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Anybody else attending pre-match on Saturday?

https://wesayenough.co.uk/oct1/

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:08 am
by Dunners
I've listened to the Truss interview this morning. This is either the biggest market over-reaction of all time, or we're proper f*cked.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:12 am
by Dunners
Also, for anyone else following this; Liz truss has repeated a false claim that her energy price cap means that £2,500 is the maximum any family will pay on their energy bills this year.

This is not true. It is an outright lie. £2,500 is the typical amount an average household will pay as a result of the cap, but if you use less or more then you will pay less or more.

How can something this basic still be getting misrepresented?

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:21 am
by Dunners
So, once again in summary, everything is the fault of:
  • Putin
  • Woke lefty bond traders
  • The commie Bank of England
  • The fear of the chaos that would ensue under a Labour government, as opposed to a stable and economically competent Tory government
No blame is apportionable to the government. Not one iota.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:34 am
by Max B Gold
Adz wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:04 am
Dunners wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:33 am I agree with Lilico that interest rates have been too low for too long. But that was also for political convenience too. So blaming the central bank is pure scapegoating.

If HM Treasury wanted to pursue a course of action that would make the UK an outlier from the G7, they should have had the foresight to coordinate with the BoE so the latter was able to factor that into it's plans.
100%. It's very amateurish from the Treasury.
They couldn't coordinate. The BofE wanted no part in crashing the economy as part of a far right project. It's also why the top civil servant at the Treasury was sacked in advance.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:37 am
by Long slender neck
Dunners wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:12 am Also, for anyone else following this; Liz truss has repeated a false claim that her energy price cap means that £2,500 is the maximum any family will pay on their energy bills this year.

This is not true. It is an outright lie. £2,500 is the typical amount an average household will pay as a result of the cap, but if you use less or more then you will pay less or more.

How can something this basic still be getting misrepresented?
Maybe she's just thick?

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:38 am
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:12 am Also, for anyone else following this; Liz truss has repeated a false claim that her energy price cap means that £2,500 is the maximum any family will pay on their energy bills this year.

This is not true. It is an outright lie. £2,500 is the typical amount an average household will pay as a result of the cap, but if you use less or more then you will pay less or more.

How can something this basic still be getting misrepresented?
You would have thought the free press and independent media would be all over this pointing out the lie. For some weird reason it goes unchallenged.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:42 am
by Orient Punxx
The French wouldn’t put up with this shi t! It’s amazing how compliant us Brits are.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:44 am
by Dunners
Long slender neck wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:37 am
Dunners wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:12 am Also, for anyone else following this; Liz truss has repeated a false claim that her energy price cap means that £2,500 is the maximum any family will pay on their energy bills this year.

This is not true. It is an outright lie. £2,500 is the typical amount an average household will pay as a result of the cap, but if you use less or more then you will pay less or more.

How can something this basic still be getting misrepresented?
Maybe she's just thick?
But they're all coming out with it on their media rounds this morning. It's clearly a pre-prepared talking point on their notes. It's a pre-prepared and deliberate lie.

And people who do not know better, such as the vulnerable or elderly, may think they can use as much heating as they like this winter and not have to worry about bills being above £2,500.


Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:48 am
by Long slender neck
Clip I just listened to she did use the phrase 'typical energy bill', I guess thats right.

An old thickie I spoke to recently complained that the energy cap wouldnt affect him as his bill would never reach £2500 anyway.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:49 am
by Max B Gold
How dare that Tory tw*t treat Nick's listeners as fools. That's Nick's job. Stop it right now.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:53 am
by Max B Gold
Long slender neck wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:48 am Clip I just listened to she did use the phrase 'typical energy bill', I guess thats right.

An old thickie I spoke to recently complained that the energy cap wouldnt affect him as his bill would never reach £2500 anyway.
I calculate mine will come in at £2,456 after the free 400 bangers from Liz. That's quite a lot of money and saving on the heating means we will be sitting about the house wrapped up like Michelin men watching are Bargain Hunt and Homes under the Hammer.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:02 am
by Max Fowler
Dunners wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:12 am
How can something this basic still be getting misrepresented?
Have you not ever seen the news before?

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:42 pm
by BoniO
Orient Punxx wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:42 am The French wouldn’t put up with this shi t! It’s amazing how compliant us Brits are.
They 100% don't put up with this shi-t. Electricity is almost half the price per unit there compared with the UK.

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:10 pm
by Max Fowler
If you love France so much, why don't you move there, git. :(((

Re: mini budget

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:41 pm
by BoniO
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:10 pm If you love France so much, why don't you move there, git. :(((
Good question. I guess the biggest risk of moving there is bumping into you & Dunners all the flaming time!