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That is a very generous interpretation and if he chooses to take that get out then fair enough, I'll apologise.
It's not about having sympathy (or maybe Conkles disagrees), but the assignment of blame to a whole people for the actions of a military organisation. I do not know if that was your intention, but it was possible to interpret your comment in that way. It's a form of "othering".Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:18 am My opinion is that Israel will do what they have to do to get rid of Hamas and I'm fine with that. I'm satisfied that they try to minimalise civilian casualties. Most events on the other side of the world I couldnt give a toss about, I didnt realise sympathy (for anyone) was now mandatory.
If that is someones opinion, I could see why they might hold that view.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:30 am So if I was to say I have no sympathy for the Israelis captured and/or brutally murdered on October 7th, you're cool with that?
(I obviously wouldn't say that because I don't think that, I'm not a nasty c**t).
Maybe ponder
No, I've made it perfectly clear that's not my opinion.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:31 amThats your opinion, I could see why someone might hold that view.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:30 am So if I was to say I have no sympathy for the Israelis captured and/or brutally murdered on October 7th, you're cool with that?
(I obviously wouldn't say that because I don't think that, I'm not a nasty c**t).
Yeah probably, a little.
Can you please unban CEB ? He's not happily taking the ban.CEB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:15 amLong slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:14 amI didnt say 'no sympathy for Palestinians".CEB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:49 am It doesn’t strike me as “blatant racism” so much as exasperation that so many people, convinced they’re on the side of what’s pure and good, seem totally unaware that Hamas are not good guys as they happily flag wave.
Its iffy for him to put it as “no sympathy for Palestinians”, and maybe it could do with some clarifying, but I’d be minded to assume he meant “supporters of Palestine” rather than “no sympathy for innocent civilians”
Oh f*** off. I’ll happily take a ban for this, you disingenuous, weaselly c***. I was foolish enough to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you really are just that much of a c***
Yes. By invitation only for select boarders.
My whatsapp pings enough as it is, In here I Choose when to partake.
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:18 am I'm satisfied that they try to minimalise civilian casualties
Don't mate, you'll get banned.oxo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:29 pmLong slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:18 am I'm satisfied that they try to minimalise civilian casualties
Read that and saw reports elsewhere. Unless I'm missing something (and happy to be corrected if I have), there's no suggestion that Israel has used White Phosphorous on civilians.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:51 am Appears that Israel have been using chemical weapons - specifically something called 'White Phosphorous' - on the Palestinian people now.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... 36df05835a
I may have got this wrong, but I always believed The use of White Phosphorus is banned under international law, and its illegal to use it, periodDunners wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:26 amRead that and saw reports elsewhere. Unless I'm missing something (and happy to be corrected if I have), there's no suggestion that Israel has used White Phosphorous on civilians.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:51 am Appears that Israel have been using chemical weapons - specifically something called 'White Phosphorous' - on the Palestinian people now.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... 36df05835a
The suggestion is that Hamas fighters were targeted and injured, but not civilians. Obviously, that may be incorrect and evidence to the contrary may emerge in due course. Sure, I guess you can define Hamas as "the Palestinian people" but under international law they are legitimate targets for the use of this weapon.
It's not banned under international law and is not directly prohibited by international humanitarian law. But its use is supposed to be tightly regulated and I'd imagine that most states using it would be smart enough to ensure they can evidence compliance.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:34 amI may have got this wrong, but I always believed The use of White Phosphorus is banned under international law, and its illegal to use it, periodDunners wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:26 amRead that and saw reports elsewhere. Unless I'm missing something (and happy to be corrected if I have), there's no suggestion that Israel has used White Phosphorous on civilians.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:51 am Appears that Israel have been using chemical weapons - specifically something called 'White Phosphorous' - on the Palestinian people now.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... 36df05835a
The suggestion is that Hamas fighters were targeted and injured, but not civilians. Obviously, that may be incorrect and evidence to the contrary may emerge in due course. Sure, I guess you can define Hamas as "the Palestinian people" but under international law they are legitimate targets for the use of this weapon.
If this is true then it's terrible and needs to be condemned and consequences felt. Can you confirm the source for Israel using it on Palestinian civilians?ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:34 am
EDIT: I have researched this, and it appears White Phosporus isnt banned, as I thought, so its quite alright now, for Israel to continue to reign it down on Palestinian civilians
I saw an interview with a surgeon in Gaza, a few weeks ago, in which he said, he has experience in people with white phosphorus burns, and what he was seeing was definitely white phosphorus burns.Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:44 pmIf this is true then it's terrible and needs to be condemned and consequences felt. Can you confirm the source for Israel using it on Palestinian civilians?ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:34 am
EDIT: I have researched this, and it appears White Phosporus isnt banned, as I thought, so its quite alright now, for Israel to continue to reign it down on Palestinian civilians